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Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say

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Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say

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Legitimate question, what would Israel need that we don’t already openly provide?

"The designation stems from concerns within the Pentagon that Israel is making a particular effort to surveil top U.S. officials to get information on the Trump administration’s internal deliberations and decision-making on the conflicts in the Middle East, the officials said."

So Israel wants to know what Trump is going to do next.

Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say

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"Government suddenly and confusingly starts acting accordingly to what everyone's already know for a long time." This is really quite scary when you think about it. Why now all of a sudden?

USA almost certainly spies on Israel (and everyone else) far deeper than anyone spies on them.

They sure do, but looking at recent events, you can make an educated guess on which country has more influence over the other. Part of it can be attributed to spying and knowing dark? secrets.

Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe this is a bit glib, but it's because attacking Iran (which everyone knew was a bad idea but which presumably seemed useful as a distraction) turned out to be a bad idea. So the administration is taking it out on Israel, who wanted us to do it.

> everyone knew was a bad idea It was a good idea if it was also timed during the popular uprisings. But the 20,000+ die-hard citizens that would have effected regime change were slaughtered months ago. So now it's just a scared populace hunkering in place while USA warships and jets dominate their country. And the Iranians fire off the occasional drone swarm on UAE.

I would love to see an agreement on the supposed number of (unarmed) civilians killed. Over the course of the past few months, I have heard claims of thousands up to 50k.

You would think the traffic and surveillance cams hacked by the Israelis would’ve shown the extent of this bloodbath.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-war-security-cameras-surveil...

Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say

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The Snowden disclosures revealed that the US was regularly spying on Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Japan, South Korea, Brazil, Mexico, the EU, and the UN. Also of course the CIA was spying on Congress. One can only imagine that many of these countries were also spying on us in various capacities, albeit with fewer resources. Israel is a bigger concern because they're extremely good at it, but I'm sure it's nothing n…

How many of those countries openly lobby politicians in USA though?

Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say

#76
post #66

We are all fooling ourselves if we don't consider that Israel is interfering in our elections too.

AIPAC publicly brags about this. https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/aipac-says-it-was-pro... https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/comments/1ry8tha/aipac_ope...

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Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say

#77
post #59
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe this is a bit glib, but it's because attacking Iran (which everyone knew was a bad idea but which presumably seemed useful as a distraction) turned out to be a bad idea. So the administration is taking it out on Israel, who wanted us to do it.

> everyone knew was a bad idea It was a good idea if it was also timed during the popular uprisings. But the 20,000+ die-hard citizens that would have effected regime change were slaughtered months ago. So now it's just a scared populace hunkering in place while USA warships and jets dominate their country. And the Iranians fire off the occasional drone swarm on UAE.

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Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say

#78
post #66

We are all fooling ourselves if we don't consider that Israel is interfering in our elections too.

AIPAC publicly brags about this. https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/aipac-says-it-was-pro... https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/comments/1ry8tha/aipac_ope...

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Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say

#79
post #71

Legitimate question, what would Israel need that we don’t already openly provide?

"The designation stems from concerns within the Pentagon that Israel is making a particular effort to surveil top U.S. officials to get information on the Trump administration’s internal deliberations and decision-making on the conflicts in the Middle East, the officials said." So Israel wants to know what Trump is going to do next.

Don't we all.
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