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Re: Azure Linux Desktop

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Post by newsoftheday »

PowerElectronix wrote: post #12
baq wrote: post #4

The year of the Linux desktop. Meanwhile I’m stuck on macOS for work. Oh the irony.

We're getting there. But I doubt your average joe will ever use anything that may require even once to type something on a terminal.

The average Joe? My wife has used Linux since the mid-2000's. Her career was in Sales, far removed from anything technical. She loves Linux compared to Windows, her new laptop came with Windows and she bugged my for months to upgrade it to Linux, which I did recently. She doesn't use the terminal at all. Kubuntu, btw.

Re: Azure Linux Desktop

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Post by newsoftheday »

baq wrote: post #4

The year of the Linux desktop. Meanwhile I’m stuck on macOS for work. Oh the irony.

I retired last year but I too had to use a Mac for a year. It was the first and last time I ever used a Mac. I hated it. So many quirky behaviors, window controls on the wrong side, just wow I had a whole list I could have articulated last year but thankfully it's a distant memory now.

Re: Azure Linux Desktop

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Post by yndoendo »

hparadiz wrote: post #18
embedding-shape wrote: post #16

> It is a general purpose server and container distribution. My god, it isn't, where are people getting that from? The previous submission ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48407499 ) from the very same author got it wrong both times? Microsoft themselves call it "Purpose-Built for Azure", why cannot the other Microsoft/Windows salesmen also call it that instead of "general purpose server and container distribut…

Both of those things are true in different ways. Purpose built for azure probably means integration with azure meta data APIs and kernel specific tweaks for the hardware. It could also be general purpose for what you can run on it. Basically it's a curated distro. Not complicated or anything different from what AWS and GCE are doing.

Your statement is contradicting with stating it was Purposely built for Azure.

Someone would have to make a Ubuntu equivalent and use Azure Linux as the base to turn it into a general purpose Linux OS.

Personally, I don't trust Microsoft and their Linux distro with how they Enshitified Windows OS and all of their other software products. Add in the fact that Microsoft likes to multi-count CVEs, per distro, instead of the actual flaw to try and make Windows OS look better when it comes to security.

Microsoft is a bad actor.

Re: Azure Linux Desktop

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Post by haydenbarnes »

sublimefire wrote: post #10

Even within MS Azure Linux is at odds because it is not working in WSL out of the box. Folks had to port stuff to AZL away from ubuntu but without an easy path to use WSL to continue development. Sure you could adopt it but there is something fundamentally fragmented if such an adoption vector is missing in WSL. Now this… why do I need AZL desktop?

> it is not working in WSL out of the box

I added a bunch of weird stuff for the GUI and PowerShell for fun.

The base container boots out of the box just fine.

Re: Azure Linux Desktop

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Post by embedding-shape »

hparadiz wrote: post #18
embedding-shape wrote: post #16

> It is a general purpose server and container distribution. My god, it isn't, where are people getting that from? The previous submission ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48407499 ) from the very same author got it wrong both times? Microsoft themselves call it "Purpose-Built for Azure", why cannot the other Microsoft/Windows salesmen also call it that instead of "general purpose server and container distribut…

Both of those things are true in different ways. Purpose built for azure probably means integration with azure meta data APIs and kernel specific tweaks for the hardware. It could also be general purpose for what you can run on it. Basically it's a curated distro. Not complicated or anything different from what AWS and GCE are doing.

> It could also be general purpose for what you can run on it.

Yeah of course, it's a Linux distribution. But feels like a marketing push when multiple people suddenly go "oh yeah Microsoft building a general purpose Linux distribution" when that's not what's happening. So what if it isn't general purpose and built purposefully for Azure? It doesn't remove anything, just being more accurate with how it's being marketed.

Re: Azure Linux Desktop

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Post by macNchz »

newsoftheday wrote: post #22
baq wrote: post #4

The year of the Linux desktop. Meanwhile I’m stuck on macOS for work. Oh the irony.

I retired last year but I too had to use a Mac for a year. It was the first and last time I ever used a Mac. I hated it. So many quirky behaviors, window controls on the wrong side, just wow I had a whole list I could have articulated last year but thankfully it's a distant memory now.

I used Macs my whole life until I built a PC in 2020 and put Linux on it. Recently I’ve started using a Mac again for work (and KVM switching between it and my Linux box), and I really do prefer Linux at this point. I have a variety of gripes, but Apple’s popup based “{App} wants to do {thing}” permissions model drives me bonkers, in particular.

Re: Azure Linux Desktop

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Post by jack_pp »

carlosjobim wrote: post #20
bokkies wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is now the average Joe doesn't need to. Just tell Claude to fix it

Imagine if different sectors worked like that. To go to a restaurant, each customer brings their own private chef to let loose in the kitchen. Wouldn't it make more sense for OS makers to "tell Claude" to make a user friendly GUI for their terminal commands?

Funnily enough the terminal which was the reason people said linux is too much of a hassle is the very thing that now makes it so you can easily fix your computer with natural language.

Sure the problem is it will still come with problems out of the box but that's mostly on laptop manufacturers. At least now you can easily fix them with an agent.

For me it's much more fun to tell my computer what I want and to get it than to scroll through a settings GUI but to each his own

Re: Azure Linux Desktop

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Post by hparadiz »

embedding-shape wrote: post #26
hparadiz wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both of those things are true in different ways. Purpose built for azure probably means integration with azure meta data APIs and kernel specific tweaks for the hardware. It could also be general purpose for what you can run on it. Basically it's a curated distro. Not complicated or anything different from what AWS and GCE are doing.

> It could also be general purpose for what you can run on it. Yeah of course, it's a Linux distribution. But feels like a marketing push when multiple people suddenly go "oh yeah Microsoft building a general purpose Linux distribution" when that's not what's happening. So what if it isn't general purpose and built purposefully for Azure? It doesn't remove anything, just being more accurate with how it's being market…

When you create a VM on these cloud platforms the categories are like "general purpose, high memory, high cpu, high gpu" and there's various types of VMs to select from. They are simply using the terminology that DevOps folks use when discussing instance types. General purpose just means it's not tuned to favor anything in particular. Don't overthink it. You are not the audience.
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