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Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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nb: poster is Daniel Lemire ( https://lemire.me ), who is very skilled in getting performance out of compute hardware (e.g. via simd, cache usage etc)

As he likes to share often, "He ranks among the top 2% of scientists globally (Stanford/Elsevier 2025) and is one of GitHub's top 1000 most followed developers. "

based on citations and github stars? or what's the context there?

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"I am not sure how many people will run AI models locally. It still seems like a niche application to me. However, it will make decent machines to play video games." I don't know who will be the winner but with some of the recent releases from gemma it seems more probable that you may run some models locally if only from a cost perspective, not even considering business security. Not sure how this type of architectur…

I think the local-model use case is going to become less niche pretty quickly if the models keep getting smaller and more capable. Even if most people do not care about privacy or offline use, the cost argument is pretty strong

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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Is it really unified memory? AMD Strix Halo is "unified" but you still have to allocate memory separately for cpu vs gpu. Apple Silicon is true unified memory.

> you still have to allocate memory separately for cpu vs gpu

That's an API issue not a hardware issue. Regardless, I believe the major APIs permit seamlessly sharing pointers at this point? (I have no experience doing that though.)

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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while unified memory may offer better performance than unsoldered DDR system memory, it still won't be as great as 1.8TB/s bandwidth on high end consumer GPUs right now.

nvidias master plan may be making it the new normal to have "only" 400GB/s bandwidth, thus gatekeeping local model usage further behind "more memory but not as fast as the cloud can do it"

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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Here is the press release for the actual machine:

https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-microsoft-windows-...

I have been somewhat surprised at the lack of commentators observing that this is Microsoft and above all NVIDIA launching a device that is fundamentally at odds with the metered cloud model of AI.

When you look at the other announcements and murmurings (better offline BYOK for Copilot, talk of an unmetered AI future) I think it’s clear that these two firms understand that cloud-only AI is not sustainable or inherently in their interests. But their willingness to undermine OpenAI with a product like this is notable.

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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Is it really unified memory? AMD Strix Halo is "unified" but you still have to allocate memory separately for cpu vs gpu. Apple Silicon is true unified memory.

My understanding is that this is the limitation from Windows not from AMD SoC. There are several internet resources to "enable unified memory support" on linux eg [1].

As a side note, qualcomm chip set on Android has been doing this for years (like Apple) so it's not super unique thing. It's more like there was no need before.

[1] https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2025/increasing-vram-alloc...

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