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Bike light that projects the symbol of a bike down onto the road

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Re: Bike light that projects the symbol of a bike down onto the road

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I live in Holland and the dedicated bike paths here make cycling really safe. So safe that I don't see the use for this bike light here in the Netherlands although it will probably have a marginal benefit. However, last summer I rented a bike in London and it was truly terrifying. Never before have I felt so unsafe in traffic before, anything to improve this situation would be great. Nonetheless, proper training of drivers so they are more aware of cyclists and dedicated bike paths would help immensely.

Re: Bike light that projects the symbol of a bike down onto the road

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I'm not entirely sure how that would help - it projects a bike symbol down to the ground.

When I'm driving, if such a cyclist would be in my blind spot (behind me, in a lane to my right), I wouldn't see the projected symbol as well. It would be simply obscured by my car - I have no way of seeing the asphalt so close to me; if a pedestrian would be standing on that illuminated spot, I'd see the person, but not their feet.

That's assuming the suggested 4-6m distance. 10-15m would be different, but that makes much higher requirements on the power of that light.

Re: Bike light that projects the symbol of a bike down onto the road

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post #2

I live in Holland and the dedicated bike paths here make cycling really safe. So safe that I don't see the use for this bike light here in the Netherlands although it will probably have a marginal benefit. However, last summer I rented a bike in London and it was truly terrifying. Never before have I felt so unsafe in traffic before, anything to improve this situation would be great. Nonetheless, proper training of d…

In the UK we are constantly berated by government, medical boards etc etc for not keeping fit and healthy, also for costing the national health service a lot of money in terms of illness due to lack of exercise.

No money is ever spent on cycle infrastructure and the roads are treacherous, many motorists are very antagonistic towards cyclists and as a result of this most people are scared away from it.

I'm not sure whether this light is a useful thing anyway, I just felt like having a rant :)

Re: Bike light that projects the symbol of a bike down onto the road

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This is stupid.

The £50 that this light costs will buy you an extremely bright set of conventional lights, giving out several hundred lumens rather than 80. These lights will illuminate a large area of the ground ahead of you, allowing you to see, and provide dazzlingly bright points of light several feet off the ground, allowing you to be seen. These lights focus their beam where it is needed, projecting light directly towards the eyes of motorists, rather than bouncing it off the ground for no clear reason. Spend a bit more and you can buy a Magicshine set, which is on a par with motorcycle lighting.

Drivers are not looking at the ground. They're not looking out for weird green symbols. They're looking for red or white points of light, a few feet off the ground. Cars and trucks have large blind spots on the nearside of their vehicle, which a cyclist can best avoid by using their height - a cyclist is as tall as a large SUV, providing good opportunities to mount your lights above the doorline of most cars.

If you're worried about drivers turning across your path, your road position is wrong. You can buy some silly gadget that won't really help the situation, or you can get some training to give you the confidence to get out of the gutter.

Re: Bike light that projects the symbol of a bike down onto the road

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post #5

Well.. It is a requirement in Germany that all bikes 11 kg or over, are fitted with dynamo powered lights.

Indeed, battery powered lights can be problematic (due to 70 year old laws...).

But a powerful LED light source is great as an additional gadget. (Although, at 4-6m range, this item is not sufficient to illuminate the road ahead).

Re: Bike light that projects the symbol of a bike down onto the road

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post #6
post #2

I live in Holland and the dedicated bike paths here make cycling really safe. So safe that I don't see the use for this bike light here in the Netherlands although it will probably have a marginal benefit. However, last summer I rented a bike in London and it was truly terrifying. Never before have I felt so unsafe in traffic before, anything to improve this situation would be great. Nonetheless, proper training of d…

In the UK we are constantly berated by government, medical boards etc etc for not keeping fit and healthy, also for costing the national health service a lot of money in terms of illness due to lack of exercise. No money is ever spent on cycle infrastructure and the roads are treacherous, many motorists are very antagonistic towards cyclists and as a result of this most people are scared away from it. I'm not sure wh…

unless the light is very bright and focused correctly, it isn't useful.

I learned my lesson about getting a good light the first time it got dark early and I found myself hoping for cars to go by so I could see where I was on the road

(and I had a front light at the time as well)

The sustrans folks seem to do what they are able to. But, for instance, there are four local hybrid/casual routes in my area that the council produced maps for about 15 years ago.

I don't think the council has paid any attention to the routes since, and it's a shame as the routes are good lengths (10-15 miles) with pretty scenery and the right amount of hill and off-roading for the average weekend warrior and their family.

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