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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by gizajob »

Cider9986 wrote: post #36
antiloper wrote: post #31

OI mate, you got a loicense for that operating system? The only surprising thing about this story is that the user didn't get a visit by the police to be charged with a "non-crime cybersecurity incident". The UK has become such a shithole.

Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. I won't be visiting. Despite many flaws, the US has some damn good rights for its citizens compared to the rest of the world.

Including the right to randomly get shot in school.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

avereveard wrote: post #207
graemep wrote: post #153

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1. That is one reason why the rules were changed to reduce the level of recoding 2. It would only be disclosed on an enhanced DBS check, not basic or standard. This also applies to all other information the police have on you, not just NCHIs. This is just like the rules for disclosing something like a caution issued to someone in your household, an aquittal, allegations made against you, parking and speeding tickets…

The right level of recording of non crime is zero wdym reduced?

If they're turning over all information the police have it makes sense this gets turned over... Or do you want the police to not have any record they spoke to you, so they'll come tomorrow and say the same thing again, and again, and again?

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by akimbostrawman »

trumpdong wrote: post #211
GoblinSlayer wrote: post #152

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What happens if you send the phone by mail?

You go on a list for acting smart, and they dump it with a cellebrite same as at the border.

they can try, so far GrapheneOS has been the only mobile OS immune to them.

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Post by Natfan »

hparadiz wrote: post #137
poirot2 wrote: post #117

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Americans perception of themselves always baffles me. You have police brutality regularly, ICE raids shooting protestors and deporting people (inc those with the right to be there) to El Salvador, people who write critical articles of Israel denied visas, servicemen dying in the Middle East, your president openly stealing from your government via slush funds and his sons, and so little accountability that the only pe…

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i would rather be paid less in order for everyone in my country to get healthcare, but i suppose im just a patriot

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by gizajob »

shevy-java wrote: post #120
paulgdp wrote: post #100

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> Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. This is precisely the reason why I don't want to visit the US at the moment. The USA immigration officers can ask me to forfeit my phone's password and look at all my photos, documents, messages, call logs etc, WITHOUT SUSPICION. Some of that data can even stay on their servers for decades, and who knows if i…

Indeed, but the UK is in many ways words. At the least in the USA, often the constitution is upheld (give or take); in the UK you often don't even have such fundamental rights. The UK at present fits more to Russia than, e. g. European countries.

You’re tripping m8.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

hparadiz wrote: post #137
poirot2 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans perception of themselves always baffles me. You have police brutality regularly, ICE raids shooting protestors and deporting people (inc those with the right to be there) to El Salvador, people who write critical articles of Israel denied visas, servicemen dying in the Middle East, your president openly stealing from your government via slush funds and his sons, and so little accountability that the only pe…

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Hi, from the other 99%.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by b65e8bee43c2ed0 »

lwhi wrote: post #82
logicchains wrote: post #70

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The bodycam literally shows a police officer responding to a man who's been stabbed with "I don't think you have mate", just because his killer said the man was racist.

I'll make this simple for you. The behaviour of one officer does not mean that we should no longer live in a diverse society. This is one incident. The officer is question made a terrible call. The fact that people like you are using this as ammunition to further frankly racist aims, is an egregious afront to everyone living in the UK.

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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by gizajob »

JdeBP wrote: post #164
shevy-java wrote: post #120

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Indeed, but the UK is in many ways words. At the least in the USA, often the constitution is upheld (give or take); in the UK you often don't even have such fundamental rights. The UK at present fits more to Russia than, e. g. European countries.

Not having a written constitution is not the same as not having rights in everyday practice.

This confuses so many people - the Uk has a series of constitutions and a very strong and historical legal basis for rights. It’s not strictly codified in one purposely written document but it does exist. And it’s a mistake to say if there’s no constitution then you have no fundamental rights. The UKs system is a hodgepodge but so is having a written constitution that can be regularly amended or otherwise ignored.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

gaiagraphia wrote: post #84

It's really scary how society is being 'nudged' into using 'authorised devices' to participate in society (which we have to pay for, lol). I wonder if some ideology which believes in tech freedom will become the communism of the next age, and prompt a new wave of 'democracy' purity crusades.

This was always the case in console gaming.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

hparadiz wrote: post #148
trumpdong wrote: post #143

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Fun fact: Americans pay more tax money towards healthcare than countries with universal tax-funded healthcare. How much healthcare does that spending get them? Zero. After overpaying tax for healthcare they also have to buy healthcare separately.

Yea cause we throw more money at it. Our facilities are far superior. In California where I live though folks with little money get very subsidized healthcare that is cheaper than NHS taxes.

California may well be an outlier state in this and various other aspects.
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