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Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by brokencode »

simoncion wrote: post #123
brokencode wrote: post #113

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It’s better than SMS and is the new industry standard. Also, iMessage kind of sucks too. There are many better messaging apps. The problem is that many people in the US never even try those. They just see that Androids have green bubbles and cause problems due to SMS.

Hello! I'm a USian, so my telecom situation might be really weird when compared to the rest of the world, IDK. > It’s better than SMS... If it guarantees timely and in-order delivery, then yes, it's better than SMS. If it doesn't, no matter what else it does it's just as bad. > ...and is the new industry standard. Odd. The only RCS messages I receive are spam. Literally zero legitimate entities send me RCS messages.…

Don’t use it if you don’t want. I’m not some kind of RCS salesman. I usually use third party apps myself. That doesn’t mean it’s not an upgrade versus SMS.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by PeterStuer »

embedding-shape wrote: post #122
tossandthrow wrote: post #119

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Ubuntu server distributions are definitely general purpose.

So if I understand what you're saying, if someone asks you "Hey, could you recommend me a general purpose Linux distribution?", you'd recommend them Ubuntu Server rather than just straight up Ubuntu? I'd agree both could be used in a general-purpose way, but I'd definitively call one of them more general-purpose than the other.

95% of my VM's run Ubuntu Server LTS, so yes, that is what I would recommend if I was a recommending person.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by theandrewbailey »

classified wrote: post #127
VimEscapeArtist wrote: post #121

Oh wow, the first AI-generated Linux! Will it suck monkey balls just as much as Windows 11?

That, and it will be as secure, reliable and snappy as GitHub! Also, coming from Microslop, the path to ever deeper enshittification is a foregone conclusion. It will be the first "Linux" with ads!

> It will be the first "Linux" with ads!

Ubuntu 12.10 had Amazon shopping results when you searched from the main menu.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by fragmede »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #139
joxdosba wrote: post #128

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A GUI Linux distribution feels vastly more niche than a headless one.

Really? What are some major Linux distributions that are only headless? What is the market share of those Linux distributions compared to Linux distributions that have a GUI desktop?

If we're counting the millions of servers that run the Internet, probably a lot more of them than GUI desktop Linux installs.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by ciupicri »

mattoxic wrote: post #23

"Microsoft’s in-house Linux, the distribution that grew out of CBL-Mariner, just hit public preview as a general-purpose cloud OS you can run on any Azure VM. Here is why that is a real step in Microsoft’s Linux journey, not just a version bump." Christ, they even lead with AI slop.

Why are you saying it's an AI slop?

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by dralley »

brokencode wrote: post #30
saghm wrote: post #11

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You cited three of the most prominent counterexamples to the common meme about Google killing their products as evidence of them extinguishing things. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, but I don't think you've demonstrated what you think you have.

The “extinguish” part refers to your competition, not to your own product. You embrace a popular open standard, add new features to your software that build upon the standard (but are proprietary), then watch as your competitors die off because customers become locked into your proprietary features. Similar to how Apple hijacked SMS to add iMessage and introduced all kinds of features and the blue/green bubble stylin…

The thing is that if step 2 isn't proprietary, but rather more open source code, then it's not "extinguish" it's just garden variety open source competition.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by joxdosba »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #139
joxdosba wrote: post #128

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A GUI Linux distribution feels vastly more niche than a headless one.

Really? What are some major Linux distributions that are only headless? What is the market share of those Linux distributions compared to Linux distributions that have a GUI desktop?

This is a bit akin to saying that cabriolets are not a niche product because many major carmakers have one as a part of their wider lineup.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by pjmlp »

panny wrote: post #137
rswail wrote: post #109

OK, so this is important not because it comes from Microsoft. 1. It's general purpose in that it is designed to be used to deliver any application software, whether containerized, on a VM or on (specific) bare hardware. 2. It has an SBOM that allows all elements of the distribution when run as a container/VM/bare to have an auditable chain back to the Fedora distribution, which then has a chain back to the source. So…

>OK, so this is important not because it comes from Microsoft. No, it IS important because it comes from Microsoft. >If Microsoft ever does applications for Linux it means I've won. - Linus Torvalds Never in his wildest dreams did he imagine this would happen. Microsoft spent a decade trying to kill Linux via SCO lawfare. Linux has won. Microsoft is completely and utterly defeated.

Microsoft has already used Linux all over the place since Satya took over.

The time to be amazed was a decade ago.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by pjmlp »

bananaquant wrote: post #97

It is bad enough that Microsoft just piggybacks on all the work that Red Hat is doing. Now they are snapshotting the bleeding-edge distribution and call it general purpose, which carries a strong implication that it is ready for all kinds of production workloads. It is not. That is why there is a Fedora/RHEL split in the first place.

Amazon does exactly the same.

Piggy backing into Red-Hat work is exactly what everyone using CentOS was doing, but somehow that was ok.

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Post by fuzzfactor »

endemic wrote: post #138
panny wrote: post #137

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>OK, so this is important not because it comes from Microsoft. No, it IS important because it comes from Microsoft. >If Microsoft ever does applications for Linux it means I've won. - Linus Torvalds Never in his wildest dreams did he imagine this would happen. Microsoft spent a decade trying to kill Linux via SCO lawfare. Linux has won. Microsoft is completely and utterly defeated.

> Microsoft is completely and utterly defeated. All the way to the bank, apparently.

You can tell how much their commitment to open-source is not a facade by how early they contribute their own unique version of NTFS to Linus.
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