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Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

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For a total opposite tool, there is mousemux (Windows only). You can get multiple mice on the same machine and you can attach a keyboard to each and lock it to a window or a screen.

Whoa! Now that's interesting! I wonder if that would be possible on other OSes...

It can be done on Linux with X11 using xinput.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

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Then don't buy it. Not everything in the world needs to be made free just for you.

You just don't get it. It's a critical system tool that's being discussed here. For someone serious about their privacy, it's a valid point. It's not open source nor is from a reputed enterprise. What's preventing the developer from adding a key logger or so?

> What's preventing the developer from adding a key logger or so?

They can log my keys all they want, I would never give a program like this internet access because it has no valid reason to ever connect to the internet (after purchasing a lifetime license). If you're serious about your privacy surely you take a little bit of responsibility for not giving every program you run unfettered access to your system?

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

#183

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The way I see it, if you go for keyboard-only approach you aim for efficiency. And then you build a site, that doesn't work without javascript at all. Which is a contradiction if you ask me.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

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I like shortcat, but it's slow, even on a modern Mac. Also, I'm not sure the dynamic nature of the hotkeys is a good thing. I could imagine if you use Mouseless for a long period of time, muscle memory might prevail as screen locations map to the same set of keys.

Some apps have crappy accessibility so Homerow doesn't always work in some apps. so I kind of want to try mouseless as well. I might end up rocking both at the same time.

Scoot supports element-based navigation (c/o accessibility APIs), plus grid-based navigation, via two separate modes:

https://github.com/mjrusso/scoot

Unfortunately both modes are necessary, because many apps have all sorts of accessibility issues.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

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I prefer ShortCat's model: https://shortcat.app/ Similar to Vimium, but for the whole OS. Apparently Homerow is similar, judging from comments I'm seeing here. I really wish I knew an equivalent for Linux. I might even leave Gnome behind if a different DE has a good model for this.

Have you tried Ratpoison? It's got a bunch of features to manipulate the rat with the keyboard.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

#188

Some existing similar tools for those who might be curious. For vim, there's easymotion or hop.nvim. For tmux, there's Morantron/tmux-fingers. For Chrome, there's Vimium. You can also flash your keyboard to have mouse controls ( https://docs.qmk.fm/features/mouse_keys ).

Huh, people use the mouse with vim? Or am I missing something?

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

#189

Wow, as cool as this is, it's kind of a shame that we need to say "use coords to show where the mouse should click" instead of designing interfaces that keep pointing-device-free users in mind.

if anything, I'd want LESS keyboard controls

more GUI, more visibility!

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

#190

Wow, as cool as this is, it's kind of a shame that we need to say "use coords to show where the mouse should click" instead of designing interfaces that keep pointing-device-free users in mind.

With Windows in particular, you absolutely can navigate Windows + Office keyboard only. I do it every day. Now, third party software, is always going to be all over the place. Stuff that was largely built on Win32 components works fine, but "modern" stylized applications rarely have strong support.

On macOS with "Full Keyboard Control" you can navigate the system and most any official app from the keyboard. It's not an efficient experience though.
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