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> It took thousands of years of advancements across chemistry, physics, material science to reach the point in the tech tree we are today.
so did everything, these words don't actually mean anything
Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made
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#42What are the rules? Is it okay to use autocomplete? Are spell checkers accepted? What if I used an AI chatbot to figure out something instead of a traditional search engine?
I made some rules: https://lee-phillips.org/humanmade/
I think I draw the line at a place that makes sense. (And mine was first, but I don’t care, as long as the movement takes off.)
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#44I don't mean to piss on your parade but llm generation is human output just like a car welded by robots is a human product. This contrived dualism between llm generated things and human generated things makes the llm into an independent agent (it is not, it is a statistical approximator) and denies the human origin of automated creations. do we say numbers calculated by hand are less authentic than by boolean logic?…
When people say "hand-made furniture", everyone knows what that means. No one is struggling with the definition of "human-made work" except those who seem offended by its existence.
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#45What are the rules? Is it okay to use autocomplete? Are spell checkers accepted? What if I used an AI chatbot to figure out something instead of a traditional search engine?
what are the rules for hand-made? is it okay to use blades? are tables accepted? what if i used a digitized text to learn my craft
come on
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pesticides represent a great achievement. People still pay more for organic though.
this seems like a terrible example. wish i could avoid "organic" products like i do "AI-first" products
You can! At pretty much every grocery store, you can get non-organic products.
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The printing invention didn't change the fact that we are still today celebrating painters.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is dishonest (and very common). You may certainly argue that genAI content should count as human-made, but it's pointless to just gesture at pre-genAI tools like autocomplete and insist that other people do the work of comparing/contrasting. It's OK to use the term "human made" to mean "not the output of genAI". There's no "gotcha" to be scored here.
Ok, what about a more direct take. Hello games made a game called No Man's Sky which has VERY heavy use of procedural generation. Same as Minecraft. If someone were to make the same games using genAi, would it be less impressive, even if the output was 'better'?
yeah?
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#49I have began to use AI to flesh out unittests and honestly am kind of digging that part. All the actual code is still me though.
This was my earliest use-case for LLMs and it remains to this day as the most compelling value proposition of all the fancy new LLMs. I have always tried to abide by DRY in my programming career with the huge exception of writing unit tests. I made the mistake, early in my career when Test-Driven Development was all the rage, of making unit tests reflect the inheritance structure of the actual code. It just made sens…
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Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made
#50When I use AI to produce a work, it’s human-made, just the same as when I use a computer to synthesize digital works using human-developed automation tools like word processors. All built on top of operating systems that manipulate bytes of all natural human-made data.
says the guy making a sloperating system lmao