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Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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Post by Cyberdogs7 »

happytoexplain wrote: post #9
janaagaard wrote: post #3

What are the rules? Is it okay to use autocomplete? Are spell checkers accepted? What if I used an AI chatbot to figure out something instead of a traditional search engine?

This is dishonest (and very common). You may certainly argue that genAI content should count as human-made, but it's pointless to just gesture at pre-genAI tools like autocomplete and insist that other people do the work of comparing/contrasting. It's OK to use the term "human made" to mean "not the output of genAI". There's no "gotcha" to be scored here.

Ok, what about a more direct take.

Hello games made a game called No Man's Sky which has VERY heavy use of procedural generation. Same as Minecraft.

If someone were to make the same games using genAi, would it be less impressive, even if the output was 'better'?

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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Post by morpheos137 »

I don't mean to piss on your parade but llm generation is human output just like a car welded by robots is a human product. This contrived dualism between llm generated things and human generated things makes the llm into an independent agent (it is not, it is a statistical approximator) and denies the human origin of automated creations. do we say numbers calculated by hand are less authentic than by boolean logic? do we say books printed by press are less human in origin than medieval calligraphy? Ai is a tool. Its output is the result of human intention / attention.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

This is a really good idea. I have zero interest in seeing something that someone couldn't be bothered to actually make themselves. And while we can't control the fact that people choose to outsource their creativity and thinking to a machine, we can choose to celebrate and highlight those who do not. I hope we see more of this as genAI becomes more and more of a blight on the quality of work out there.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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Post by happytoexplain »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #18
pton_xd wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's absolutely nothing wrong with using AI and it's something we should be celebrating. Ok, but there's also nothing wrong with celebrating not using AI.

There is nothing wrong with walking or riding horses to get to where you need to go but I wouldn't celebrate that. It's a nice hobby bit not efficient. The same will probably happen to most of "human made code". It's fun but doesn't make much sense economically.

This is horrifying.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

jrflo wrote: post #5
janaagaard wrote: post #3

What are the rules? Is it okay to use autocomplete? Are spell checkers accepted? What if I used an AI chatbot to figure out something instead of a traditional search engine?

Is it ok if I used a compiler and didn't write the assembly code by hand?

You're implying compilers now utilize generative AI somehow? I doubt that very much.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #20
jrflo wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it ok if I used a compiler and didn't write the assembly code by hand?

Nope. You also can't use a CPU made by big ASML machines. If you decide to go with a mechanical computer I am not sure if a lathe is ok.

You start from a rock and build your own CPU.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

Cyberdogs7 wrote: post #31
happytoexplain wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is dishonest (and very common). You may certainly argue that genAI content should count as human-made, but it's pointless to just gesture at pre-genAI tools like autocomplete and insist that other people do the work of comparing/contrasting. It's OK to use the term "human made" to mean "not the output of genAI". There's no "gotcha" to be scored here.

Ok, what about a more direct take. Hello games made a game called No Man's Sky which has VERY heavy use of procedural generation. Same as Minecraft. If someone were to make the same games using genAi, would it be less impressive, even if the output was 'better'?

Yes.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

whyenot wrote: post #11

I'm not entirely sure what "100% human-made" even means. Also, what is the difference between 90% and 100%? Is any website (of the modern era) 100% human made?

Lucky for you, the website answers these questions in the very few sentences of text that it contains, so you can just read those sentences if you actually want your questions answered.
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