I'm not entirely sure what "100% human-made" even means. Also, what is the difference between 90% and 100%? Is any website (of the modern era) 100% human made?
Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made
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Horrible? You could have argued that celebrating both things is fine. But you didn't. The implication is simply the opposite: That I should be ashamed if I enjoy or am proud to have made something by hand.
Technology is not a universal good. That's a simplistic idea. We have taken thousands of years to develop all sorts of horrible shit with more downsides than upsides - things that only exist because they are inevitable, not because they are purely beneficial to the spirit or even the practical wellbeing of humanity.
Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made
#13What are the rules? Is it okay to use autocomplete? Are spell checkers accepted? What if I used an AI chatbot to figure out something instead of a traditional search engine?
None of these amount to AI making something. Before AI, it’s been humans who put the words on the paper, who put the strokes on the canvas, who put the notes on the sheet. Spell-checking and auto-completion have existed before AI and do not fundamentally change the process.
Since this project singles out AI (likely generative AI using machine learning), it seems evident to me that it rules out any involvement which does fundamentally change the process, i.e. what people otherwise do when creating.
(Yes, one could argue that e.g. word processing or printing have also fundamentally changed the process, and that is absolutely true, but each of those has changed the process differently than machine learning has, and clearly this website considers the changes made by AI undesirable in some ways, not the changes made by word processing or printing.)
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Horrible ? You could have argued that celebrating both things is fine. But you didn't. The implication is simply the opposite: That I should be ashamed if I enjoy or am proud to have made something by hand. Technology is not a universal good. That's a simplistic idea. We have taken thousands of years to develop all sorts of horrible shit with more downsides than upsides - things that only exist because they are inevi…
Take a example. You could be a hunter gatherer, you could grow all your own crops from scratch, you could forsake all modern medicine and rely on superstition - would you be considered a wise person? You figured out things a lot of people didn't, you took the harder road - but most people would say this approach is just dumb.
What's wise isn't forsaking technology, it's using technology to improve things, and developing new technology as well. What's wise is using AI as a power user and seeing how you can contribute to the intelligence age.
Celebrating a foregone past where human intelligence was more valuable is hopeless and naive at best.
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Pesticides represent a great achievement. People still pay more for organic though.
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#16I don't understand what "human-made" means. Are they going to write assembly code themselves or are they taking a big pile of sand to create some transistors?
I understand some of the concerns about AI but they are either a problem of our economic system or of people not caring about what they are doing. Economic problems are probably the most important because robotics and AI have the potential to break our current capitalist system.
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#17What are the rules? Is it okay to use autocomplete? Are spell checkers accepted? What if I used an AI chatbot to figure out something instead of a traditional search engine?
This is dishonest (and very common). You may certainly argue that genAI content should count as human-made, but it's pointless to just gesture at pre-genAI tools like autocomplete and insist that other people do the work of comparing/contrasting. It's OK to use the term "human made" to mean "not the output of genAI". There's no "gotcha" to be scored here.
What is dishonest about asking for clarification of submission criteria that are utterly unclear?
> Help us to signify and share projects done by humans (not AI).
Here is nothing about GenAI specifically.
Who else could be asked if not the ones that set up this collection?
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> There's absolutely nothing wrong with using AI and it's something we should be celebrating. Ok, but there's also nothing wrong with celebrating not using AI.
There is nothing wrong with walking or riding horses to get to where you need to go but I wouldn't celebrate that. It's a nice hobby bit not efficient. The same will probably happen to most of "human made code". It's fun but doesn't make much sense economically.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Horrible ? You could have argued that celebrating both things is fine. But you didn't. The implication is simply the opposite: That I should be ashamed if I enjoy or am proud to have made something by hand. Technology is not a universal good. That's a simplistic idea. We have taken thousands of years to develop all sorts of horrible shit with more downsides than upsides - things that only exist because they are inevi…
Take a example. You could be a hunter gatherer, you could grow all your own crops from scratch, you could forsake all modern medicine and rely on superstition - would you be considered a wise person? You figured out things a lot of people didn't, you took the harder road - but most people would say this approach is just dumb. What's wise isn't forsaking technology, it's using technology to improve things, and develop…
Different people value different things. Some people run even though they could have taken a Waymo. Some people are into paperclipmaxxing. I avoid AI to the extent that it's easy and practical, but I don't do it to call myself wise. I just don't like it. Am I being inefficient? Possibly. There are some things I do where I'm not optimizing for KPI though.
Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made
#20What are the rules? Is it okay to use autocomplete? Are spell checkers accepted? What if I used an AI chatbot to figure out something instead of a traditional search engine?
Is it ok if I used a compiler and didn't write the assembly code by hand?
Nope. You also can't use a CPU made by big ASML machines. If you decide to go with a mechanical computer I am not sure if a lathe is ok.