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Dutch gov't will only allow European company to operate DigiD platform

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Re: Dutch gov't will only allow European company to operate DigiD platform

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Post by spockz »

yxhuvud wrote: post #18
boricj wrote: post #13

As a French person, I'm confused as to why DigiD is not a government-run project like FranceConnect is. I'm even more bewildered that an American company thought that they could take over the national identity management system of an European country, as if this was business as usual.

Governments are not the only players needing working digital id, and sometimes banks are faster to build it.

Banks have nothing to do with DigiD. There is eidas which allows you to attest your identity using a bank.

Re: Dutch gov't will only allow European company to operate DigiD platform

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Post by spockz »

irdc wrote: post #17
boricj wrote: post #13

As a French person, I'm confused as to why DigiD is not a government-run project like FranceConnect is. I'm even more bewildered that an American company thought that they could take over the national identity management system of an European country, as if this was business as usual.

As a Dutch person, I'm not. Dutch administrators are traditionally wary of doing anything themselves that they could conceivably outsource to a commercial party. That also results in endless swarms of locus^H^H^H^H^Hconsultants feeding on our taxes. I hate it, but what can you do, this is sadly what people here keep voting for.

I’m unaware of this kind of topic ever being one of the points in election time. This as opposed to topics like animal welfare. Sovereignty is only now becoming more visible as a votable topic.

Sadly, I don’t know of a way to influence how our government practices IT. Except maybe to work for Logius. And even then there will be the topic of funding.

Re: Dutch gov't will only allow European company to operate DigiD platform

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Post by carlosjobim »

boricj wrote: post #13

As a French person, I'm confused as to why DigiD is not a government-run project like FranceConnect is. I'm even more bewildered that an American company thought that they could take over the national identity management system of an European country, as if this was business as usual.

The entire customs system of all of China used to be run by European foreigners. Not because of Western imperialism, but on invitation from the Chinese rulers, as a measure to combat corruption.

Some European countries right now have their currency printing and their passport printing outsourced to foreign nations.

These things aren't too unusual.

Re: Dutch gov't will only allow European company to operate DigiD platform

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Post by lyu07282 »

ur-whale wrote: post #14
deafpolygon wrote: post #3

What's wrong with the government taking over admin of DigiD? I just don't understand why the government won't consider funding it. It's a public infrastructure service at this point.

> What's wrong with the government taking over admin of DigiD? Because they're a government and they are therefore going to fuck it up.

Unfortunately you will never realize how this ideology is fucking up every facet of society and which interests that are never your own put a momentous effort into drilling that propaganda into your head.

Re: Dutch gov't will only allow European company to operate DigiD platform

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Post by loupol »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #19
boricj wrote: post #13

As a French person, I'm confused as to why DigiD is not a government-run project like FranceConnect is. I'm even more bewildered that an American company thought that they could take over the national identity management system of an European country, as if this was business as usual.

DigiD is a government project. It's owned and operated by Logius, which is a government-owned entity. Logius outsourced the hosting and infrastructure to Solvinity.

That's a bit better but it shifts the question:

Why did they not mandate national (or at least EU-based) hosting and infra ?

It feels a bit insane in retrospect for such a critical digital service ?

Re: Dutch gov't will only allow European company to operate DigiD platform

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Post by victorbjorklund »

tokai wrote: post #11
AndrewDucker wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For some reason the government isn't willing to pay software developer salaries. It would rather pay a company to pay them instead.

In most cases its illegal to set up something inside the public org. It needs to be put out as a public offer. It's part of New public management pushed by neoliberal interests.

Bullshit. Its not illegal.

Re: Dutch gov't will only allow European company to operate DigiD platform

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Post by [deleted] »

boricj wrote: post #13

As a French person, I'm confused as to why DigiD is not a government-run project like FranceConnect is. I'm even more bewildered that an American company thought that they could take over the national identity management system of an European country, as if this was business as usual.

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Re: Dutch gov't will only allow European company to operate DigiD platform

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Post by outside1234 »

boricj wrote: post #13

As a French person, I'm confused as to why DigiD is not a government-run project like FranceConnect is. I'm even more bewildered that an American company thought that they could take over the national identity management system of an European country, as if this was business as usual.

Probably because it is wildly expensive to have a government directly run any tech project.
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