Ceasefires Don't End Cyberwars

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Post by spacesuit » Wed, Nov 28, 2012, 3:54 AM UTC

Ceasefires Don't End Cyberwars
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Re: Ceasefires Don't End Cyberwars

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Post by isalmon » Wed, Nov 28, 2012, 5:25 AM UTC

It would be nice if CloudFlare could provide a couple of examples of what sites exactly are being attacked.

Re: Ceasefires Don't End Cyberwars

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Post by ams6110 » Wed, Nov 28, 2012, 5:39 AM UTC

Ceasefires usually don't end real wars either.

Re: Ceasefires Don't End Cyberwars

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Post by thejosh » Wed, Nov 28, 2012, 6:15 AM UTC

isalmon wrote: post #2

It would be nice if CloudFlare could provide a couple of examples of what sites exactly are being attacked.

Cloudflare won't do that, they are pretty awesome about site privacy.

I remember watching a video where he did a talk about lulzsec and he had to get permission to talk about their stats, so I'm pretty sure they won't release the sites that are being targeted without prior permission.

Re: Ceasefires Don't End Cyberwars

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Post by anigbrowl » Wed, Nov 28, 2012, 6:50 AM UTC

ams6110 wrote: post #3

Ceasefires usually don't end real wars either.

All wars end with ceasefires, however. I'm not convinced by your assertion, what's it based on?

Re: Ceasefires Don't End Cyberwars

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Post by yozmsn » Wed, Nov 28, 2012, 7:04 AM UTC

isalmon wrote: post #2

It would be nice if CloudFlare could provide a couple of examples of what sites exactly are being attacked.

IDFblog, if you tried to go there during the war, they would popup and say "we're checking if you're a legit request .... redirecting now"

Re: Ceasefires Don't End Cyberwars

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Post by ekianjo » Wed, Nov 28, 2012, 7:33 AM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #5

ams6110 wrote: post #3

Ceasefires usually don't end real wars either.

All wars end with ceasefires, however. I'm not convinced by your assertion, what's it based on?

Technically it's not just cease-fire when you end a war, it's capitulation on one side.

Re: Ceasefires Don't End Cyberwars

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Post by codexon » Wed, Nov 28, 2012, 7:36 AM UTC

CloudFlare's goal is to power a better Internet. While that will inherently mean we will increasingly find ourselves in difficult situations like this one, we will continue to be guided by the principle that it is not our role to decide whether one idea or another is correct, but instead to ensure that all ideas can find equal footing online.

I wonder what jgrahamc has to say about Cloudflare shielding sites used to ddos people.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1182576

Re: Ceasefires Don't End Cyberwars

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Post by tagada » Wed, Nov 28, 2012, 7:51 AM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #7

anigbrowl wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All wars end with ceasefires, however. I'm not convinced by your assertion, what's it based on?

Technically it's not just cease-fire when you end a war, it's capitulation on one side.

Capitulation, or crushing / collapse, yes, plus one.

Re: Ceasefires Don't End Cyberwars

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Post by tagada » Wed, Nov 28, 2012, 7:56 AM UTC

yozmsn wrote: post #6

isalmon wrote: post #2

It would be nice if CloudFlare could provide a couple of examples of what sites exactly are being attacked.

IDFblog, if you tried to go there during the war, they would popup and say "we're checking if you're a legit request .... redirecting now"

I went on it a lot during that operation, it was never down, actually.

Most of the official israeli sites were not affected, or only very shortly. However, a lot of small private - politically insignificant - owned websites (groceries, cafés, kibbutzim, craftsmen ...) were.