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Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

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Post by mikestew »

varun_ch wrote: post #7
Someone1234 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Windows in particular, you absolutely can navigate Windows + Office keyboard only. I do it every day. Now, third party software, is always going to be all over the place. Stuff that was largely built on Win32 components works fine, but "modern" stylized applications rarely have strong support.

You’re right that lots of Windows apps were designed with Keyboard only workflows in mind. It’s a shame that MacOS has so many points where if you don’t have a mouse you’re out of luck. There is one major improvement you can do on Mac, at least for menus: https://varun.ch/posts/macos-keyboard/

Like the linked article says, every time I set up a new Mac, I’m annoyed that this isn’t the default.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

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Post by flux3125 »

tcoff91 wrote: post #31
flux3125 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious if there's a program that uses a simple detection model for UX components to locate clickable areas. This would allow for global navigation similar to VimiumC

https://www.homerow.com/ Been using this for years.

Sorry, I forgot to add "on Linux" at the end. Still, that's a nice one!

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

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Post by stronglikedan »

CalRobert wrote: post #3

Wow, as cool as this is, it's kind of a shame that we need to say "use coords to show where the mouse should click" instead of designing interfaces that keep pointing-device-free users in mind.

> interfaces that keep pointing-device-free users

There's plenty of TUIs for the dozens of you to use.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

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Post by stronglikedan »

Someone1234 wrote: post #4
CalRobert wrote: post #3

Wow, as cool as this is, it's kind of a shame that we need to say "use coords to show where the mouse should click" instead of designing interfaces that keep pointing-device-free users in mind.

With Windows in particular, you absolutely can navigate Windows + Office keyboard only. I do it every day. Now, third party software, is always going to be all over the place. Stuff that was largely built on Win32 components works fine, but "modern" stylized applications rarely have strong support.

I just wish the shortcuts between the OS and Office were consistent. Most are, but some of the more commonly used ones aren't.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

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Post by alentred »

Sometimes when I am too tired, I lean back in my chair and click through Hacker News or something similar. I use Vimium in my browser and HN is great to navigate with it, but that's the not the point - the whole point is I don't want to sit above my keyboard with my hands on the home row.

I consider myself a "keyboard power user" if this is a thing anyway, and I really dig the home row thing (Vimmer for 20+ years now), but frankly having my hands on the keyboard ALL the time throughout the day is really tiring. So, I actually like my mouse for a change of posture, the cursor that I can follow with my eyes, etc.

P.S. I have to admit, though, that I love even more the interfaces that don't require a mouse in the first place. It's a shame we stopped adding well-thought tab stops in the UI and keyboards shortcuts are just a free-for-all in the apps.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

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Post by CTDOCodebases »

CalRobert wrote: post #3

Wow, as cool as this is, it's kind of a shame that we need to say "use coords to show where the mouse should click" instead of designing interfaces that keep pointing-device-free users in mind.

A tiled window manager with Qutebrowser and it's vimium style shortcuts is the closest I have come to this.
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