Using closed source software to drive my OS doesn't sound that appealing to me.
If you're on Linux, mouseless [0] may work well for you.
Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows
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#12Pretty cool, would have been great before the trackpad.
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#13Wow, as cool as this is, it's kind of a shame that we need to say "use coords to show where the mouse should click" instead of designing interfaces that keep pointing-device-free users in mind.
With Windows in particular, you absolutely can navigate Windows + Office keyboard only. I do it every day. Now, third party software, is always going to be all over the place. Stuff that was largely built on Win32 components works fine, but "modern" stylized applications rarely have strong support.
Most things in Linux too - all DEs I have tried have lots of keyboard shortcuts and so do a lot of applications.
The problem is that they are less discoverable and you need to make and effort to get used to using them instead of point and click.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
With Windows in particular, you absolutely can navigate Windows + Office keyboard only. I do it every day. Now, third party software, is always going to be all over the place. Stuff that was largely built on Win32 components works fine, but "modern" stylized applications rarely have strong support.
Most things in Linux too - all DEs I have tried have lots of keyboard shortcuts and so do a lot of applications. The problem is that they are less discoverable and you need to make and effort to get used to using them instead of point and click.
They used to be discoverable with mnemonics (underlined letters) but those have been dead nearly thirty years…
Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows
#16This is a helpful method for visually grounding LLMs to take actions on the screen such as clicking. For humans though, hell no.
Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows
#17Or you could use tab, arrow keys, page up/down, enter...
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#18Wow, as cool as this is, it's kind of a shame that we need to say "use coords to show where the mouse should click" instead of designing interfaces that keep pointing-device-free users in mind.
I'm curious if there's a program that uses a simple detection model for UX components to locate clickable areas. This would allow for global navigation similar to VimiumC
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#19Using closed source software to drive my OS doesn't sound that appealing to me.
Then don't buy it. Not everything in the world needs to be made free just for you.
Nah, this is a very good point; I've seen things similar to this in the past and it's a cool idea -- but "subscription modeling" every little tool is not a good path to keep going down.
Free and open source is important and it's perfectly fine to be critical here.
Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows
#20Or you could use tab, arrow keys, page up/down, enter...
That's OK in menus and the OS in general but if you're working on a web app or big form tabbing through it can be a PITA.