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When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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I'm having a hard time putting much faith into posts like these, especially as they near IPO.

If the post drops long before the IPO, it's vain boosterism. If it's near the IPO, it's fattening the pig. If it's after the IPO, it's pumping the stock price.

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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I think the problem is about scale, we already have MAD, but imagine that the new tech might allows us to create new threads and weapons, powerful enough to eliminate millions people. That have happened before, and also tech has given us some fun, like videogames and electronic music. So the critic is about the hard consequences, when all is destroid fun is over.

The account you're attempting to emulate is a mod.. is this wise?

I created an HN account with a mostly random name, and I don't know why you think that I am deliberately attempting to emulate someone or something. Since you seem to know a lot more, I think you could explain what the real problem with the name is, using "mod..." is an arcane way to say something. Do you think any new user should know all the information that you supposedly know about?

I am using deepseek to guess what not "socially acceptable" taboo could be related to that username. But the initial thought is that AI could be a trap we could fall into, and I try to track how the AI trap emerge.

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

#633
It is hard to distinguish hype from reality these days especially with Anthrophic's IPO around the corner.

But to their credit, I was very sceptical about the statements that "90% of the code will soon be written by AI" and even though we might not be at that point, I am surprised how far LLMs have gotten and how useful they have become. I can hardly image developing software the "old" way where I actually write my code by hand, like I used back in the day. The frontier models have become so powerful that I find myself in moments of surprise, where the LLM actually thought of edge cases that I would have missed

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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the HITL (human in the loop) is basically the single point...AI is a mirror..

it only "exists" when you talk to it.. much like your reflection in the mirror is only there when you're in view.

models can never be self-improving because it can never have "self". it can only mirror the appearance of self.

what's actually happening is "symbiotic group improvement".

our brains are resonant.. for those of use who are brilliant, getting leverage with ai just means that our innovative ideas become louder and more physically real every day.

eventually everything worth building will be built for free and made readily available.. no more "profiteering"

its Jevons paradox "efficiency breakthrough -> effort reduces -> growth potential rises -> transformative gains happen"...

some of us are in the "transformative phase"..

others haven't seen the "breakthrough moment" yet, but they will soon.

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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Do you not think that the allocation of human time is one of the world’s biggest problems?

For the Capitalist crowd, YES it is the biggest cost. The next is energy. Imagine a world where your research and development is all AI and the production is all automated by robots. Instant product to sell to the masses who has no money because no one is working.

In the future a few thousand billionaire geniuses will own a world of unimaginable luxury and near-infinite longevity. They will make the decisions, AI will execute them, and robots will do the physical work.

Everyone else will be reduced to compost.

It's the perfect plan. The final definitive justification for capitalism.

The masses are unnecessary. The masses will be optimised.

What could possibly go wrong?

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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Nope. Used to render on the terminal like a game engine. https://x.com/trq212/status/2014051501786931427

How on earth are you spending more than 50us on a UI like this from start to finish? What the actual hell? 11ms to construct a scenegraph of this complexity? I don't even know what to say to that.

In comparison, I have around 3ms total latency when streaming 4k 144hz from headless machine in my basement to upstars :-D

At least that is what Moonlight client claims.

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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Exactly. If AI is going to start being graded on how many LoC it generates- oh, I'm sorry, how much it "accelerates", than guess what newer models will start doing more of?

Surely they can train AI on the signal to change as few lines as possible. Indeed, this is something I'd want to have control over when making requests. In a traditional UI, I'd imagine some kind of slider between "fewest lines" and "be bold".

I've been having some success asking Claude to run sloccount after each change. Seems to help a little, though it's prone to forgetting over a long session.

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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Sure. For a videogame. > -> rasterizes them to a 2d screen Also you forgot "render to a framebuffer, then parse the framebuffer back to chars". Anyway, I'm off to construct the new `ls` command. It will render the list of files to a mesh of billions of polygons in a GPU with advanced shaders, 16x oversampling, HDR and all the graphic acronyms I don't understand, then read the resulting image, find the nearest charact…

Could be improved. Encode the image to webp with high compression settings and handle the ASCII mapping by spinning up a local LLM to do OCR on it. Individually. For each cell.

Thanks for the idea for V2.0. Hopefully the Claude team doesn't do it first.

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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Nope. Used to render on the terminal like a game engine. https://x.com/trq212/status/2014051501786931427

> render on the terminal like a game engine All those CPU to render this effect https://x.com/cyrilXBT/status/2060617507615207904

ULTRACODE! NOW WITH MORE BLINKENLIGHTS!

(to be read with the Unreal Tournament announcer voices, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwxjYFqP35A )

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

#640

I don't quite understand the intent of such article other than to promote themselves given an odd timing that the company is planning on going public, so I can only conclude that this is just part of the IPO roadshow. LLMs certainly have made significant changes to our lives, but I haven't yet to see any extraordinary improvement it brought to me which makes me skeptical about their claims. _if_ it solves many of our…

Truly feels like witnessing the worst of capitalism and greed play out. All that compute and energy towards a narrative of reducing the need for skilled programmers. What a waste. These people don't have our interests in mind and everyone eats it up like a blessing from a god or something. It's surreal.

I think these people do have our interests at heart, but that's largely irrelevant. Their point is that capitalist free markets don't let them act on that.

Capitalism and democracy are becoming obsolete. It's not clear what's next.

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