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Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by graemep »

jraph wrote: post #76
gunalx wrote: post #58

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According to [1] the guidelines explicitly say to keep editorializing to a specified minimum, unless it is spam. Dont know it this title would allow editorialising [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

They say "please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize". I think it's misleading and linkbait. The mods would decide what to use instead, this could be "Azure Linux 4.0, Microsoft's Linux distribution for its cloud" or something like this.

Especially given the article says this:

> It is minimal on purpose. Azure Linux ships only what cloud and server workloads need. There is no desktop, no GUI, no general-purpose sprawl.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by trumpdong »

pjmlp wrote: post #68
WD-42 wrote: post #25

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Do people not realize that this just instantly torpedoes credibility and respect? I'm dumbfounded.

Got to meet those KPIs regarding using AI on the job. I thought using AI for everything is the new cool.

No, that's last month. This month the CEOs are getting the AI bills from last month and saying everyone has to stop using AI

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by hmry »

graemep wrote: post #81
jraph wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They say "please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize". I think it's misleading and linkbait. The mods would decide what to use instead, this could be "Azure Linux 4.0, Microsoft's Linux distribution for its cloud" or something like this.

Especially given the article says this: > It is minimal on purpose. Azure Linux ships only what cloud and server workloads need. There is no desktop, no GUI, no general-purpose sprawl .

Yep sure does. Love an article that contradicts its own title. Bonus points for that sentence sounding extremely AI-generated.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by trumpdong »

brokencode wrote: post #30
saghm wrote: post #11

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You cited three of the most prominent counterexamples to the common meme about Google killing their products as evidence of them extinguishing things. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, but I don't think you've demonstrated what you think you have.

The “extinguish” part refers to your competition, not to your own product. You embrace a popular open standard, add new features to your software that build upon the standard (but are proprietary), then watch as your competitors die off because customers become locked into your proprietary features. Similar to how Apple hijacked SMS to add iMessage and introduced all kinds of features and the blue/green bubble stylin…

to be fair to apple one time, RCS is terrible

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by fc417fc802 »

brokencode wrote: post #30
saghm wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cited three of the most prominent counterexamples to the common meme about Google killing their products as evidence of them extinguishing things. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, but I don't think you've demonstrated what you think you have.

The “extinguish” part refers to your competition, not to your own product. You embrace a popular open standard, add new features to your software that build upon the standard (but are proprietary), then watch as your competitors die off because customers become locked into your proprietary features. Similar to how Apple hijacked SMS to add iMessage and introduced all kinds of features and the blue/green bubble stylin…

Even then you can't seem to use RCS from outside of the Apple and Google walled gardens so it probably still counts as some sort of merged extinguish effort.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by trumpdong »

cbdevidal wrote: post #78
pjmlp wrote: post #74

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There is even an interview of Bill Gates where he talks about UNIX as the future of computing, naturally with Xenix, how things turn around. Xenix was my introduction to UNIX. "The Future of Xenix" https://archive.org/details/Unix_World_Vol02_10.pdf/page/n21...

Also relevant quote that I think about when this subject comes up: “If Microsoft ever does applications for Linux it means I've won.” ~Linus Torvalds In this case, an entire freaking distro.

a distro is the opposite of an application

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by pjmlp »

cbdevidal wrote: post #78
pjmlp wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is even an interview of Bill Gates where he talks about UNIX as the future of computing, naturally with Xenix, how things turn around. Xenix was my introduction to UNIX. "The Future of Xenix" https://archive.org/details/Unix_World_Vol02_10.pdf/page/n21...

Also relevant quote that I think about when this subject comes up: “If Microsoft ever does applications for Linux it means I've won.” ~Linus Torvalds In this case, an entire freaking distro.

This is not the first distro coming out of Microsoft, see Azure Sphere OS.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/internet-of-things-s...

I would rather say UNIX won the server room, Linux just happens to be the UNIX clone most people hack on nowadays, and can change tomorrow as companies take over and people like Linus eventually pass the torch.

You can already see that on embedded, other FOSS OSes are being adopted, without GPL licensing, like Zephyr, NutXX, FreeRTOS,...

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by pjmlp »

trumpdong wrote: post #83
pjmlp wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Got to meet those KPIs regarding using AI on the job. I thought using AI for everything is the new cool.

No, that's last month. This month the CEOs are getting the AI bills from last month and saying everyone has to stop using AI

Sadly some of them have deep pockets.
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