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Re: Meta enables ADB on deprecated Portal devices [video]

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Even sadder. Turns out all we needed to not have our old devices locked down was the CTO having some fun

Why is this sad? I’m having a hard time understanding the thought you are communicating. It seems cool that a CTO had fun and that motivated him to enable ADB for everyone?

as other has said, it is sad that it took that a CTO had fun to open it up, and not the rest of the public discourse about things like this.

I'm happy he had fun and all for him making decisions based on it. But it shouldn't have taken this.

Re: Meta enables ADB on deprecated Portal devices [video]

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Why is this sad? I’m having a hard time understanding the thought you are communicating. It seems cool that a CTO had fun and that motivated him to enable ADB for everyone?

Just that the default reality is the hardware you buy belonging to someone else, who only really sold you a license to use the hardware on limited terms until the manufacturer drops support

This generalizes to “good news is bad news because things must be bad by default for good things to be news”

Re: Meta enables ADB on deprecated Portal devices [video]

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Apparently a message prompting users that they can enable 'adb' on their devices by navigating to "Settings > Debug > ADB Enabled" has existed for over a month although majority have been unsuccessful due to the Setting not existing! [0] [1] [0] - https://x.com/PiunikaWeb/status/2053803917910376584 [1] - https://www.reddit.com/r/FacebookPortal/comments/1t55mee/unl...

For what it's worth, I just fired up my two portal gen 2 in the closet, updated them and the adb setting just worked. The adb UI is a little jank and doesn't appear to enable but it does actually work. Got them set up as Home Assistant dashboards

I'm a Meta employee so who knows if I'm in some magic gatekeeper but ADB definitely didn't work on these even as an employee before

Re: Meta enables ADB on deprecated Portal devices [video]

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It shouldn’t be left to the whim of a C-suite denizen.

If the leadership of a company aren't the right people to make decisions about what that company does, who is? Are you advocating for legislation? How would that work?

Ideally the workers. But failing that, legislation would probably be a good thing to at least try to reduce e-waste from closed, discarded devices. Like, if a device line is at its end of line from the company, then they might as well make it open for the community. They're not supporting it anymore, after all, but someone might want to.

Would such legislation be perfect for dealing with these kinds of things? Of course not, but it would be better.

Re: Meta enables ADB on deprecated Portal devices [video]

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> It is sad that it takes a Meta developer having some fun to realize they should open up ADB. Former facebook research lab twat here. It wasn't one dev. We asked when they shitcanned portal (which was a great product, badly managed) to open it up. Infact one of the kernel devs made a very direct plea to allow the community to adopt the hardware so that we could avoid Ewaste. It was denied because there are keys on t…

> It was denied because there are keys on the device that would leak if meta opened it up. (I'm not an android dev so I don't know the ins and outs of that) Any idea what changed? > neglect and stupidity from zuck meant that the portal was killed Is Facebook really set up such that one person's whim is the single point of failure? Is there really no way for teams to progress projects with value somewhat independently…

Is there any company set up so that the CEO's whim isn't a single point of failure?

Re: Meta enables ADB on deprecated Portal devices [video]

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> It is sad that it takes a Meta developer having some fun to realize they should open up ADB. Former facebook research lab twat here. It wasn't one dev. We asked when they shitcanned portal (which was a great product, badly managed) to open it up. Infact one of the kernel devs made a very direct plea to allow the community to adopt the hardware so that we could avoid Ewaste. It was denied because there are keys on t…

> It was denied because there are keys on the device that would leak if meta opened it up. (I'm not an android dev so I don't know the ins and outs of that) Any idea what changed? > neglect and stupidity from zuck meant that the portal was killed Is Facebook really set up such that one person's whim is the single point of failure? Is there really no way for teams to progress projects with value somewhat independently…

> Is Facebook really set up such that one person's whim is the single point of failure?

It doesn't sound that surprising, does it?

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