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Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

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Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

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> Microsoft leverages its immensely powerful position as the supplier of the ubiquitous Windows PC operating system, as well as many productivity and other must-have apps, to push users towards its first-party browser, Edge, through tactics that restrict, distort and subvert user choice.

Heh. This could have been written 25 years ago.

Though at least back then, Microsoft was winning. Since then, the market share of IE/Edge has become so irrelevant that most people have stopped caring so much about these tactics.

At this point, it mostly just comes across as adorable when Windows tries to push you to use Edge. Like "wow, they're still trying."

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

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post #2

> Microsoft leverages its immensely powerful position as the supplier of the ubiquitous Windows PC operating system, as well as many productivity and other must-have apps, to push users towards its first-party browser, Edge, through tactics that restrict, distort and subvert user choice. Heh. This could have been written 25 years ago. Though at least back then, Microsoft was winning. Since then, the market share of I…

Totally. First thing I did was check the article posting date :D

EU-specific measures: https://windowsforum.com/threads/windows-11s-browser-choice-...

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

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post #2

> Microsoft leverages its immensely powerful position as the supplier of the ubiquitous Windows PC operating system, as well as many productivity and other must-have apps, to push users towards its first-party browser, Edge, through tactics that restrict, distort and subvert user choice. Heh. This could have been written 25 years ago. Though at least back then, Microsoft was winning. Since then, the market share of I…

>Heh. This could have been written 25 years ago.

I am reading this wondering if I got pranked and its a historical article.

Until I got to "Edge"

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

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All this applies to iOS and safari too

Google is also pushing Chrome on all their other apps. Google Maps keeps asksing me in what browser to open a link; putting Chrome first: I don’t have Chrome installed.

And that on top of the EEE-steps with all the non-standards they keep implementing.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

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Microsoft is effectively a monopoly, to say it's anything else and that other browsers are available is a nonsense for reasons that everyone knows.

Appealing to reason is a waste of time as no big monopolistic corporation will willingly forfeit money. The only realistic (effective) solution is legislative. I don't see that happening anytime soon in the US but perhaps it's possible in other jurisdictions (more likely now that the US is no longer the flavor of the month with many).

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

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All this applies to iOS and safari too

Really? I Never got a weird message from Apple about other browsers being bad or potentially dangerous, and I tried Vivaldi, DDG, Brave, Firefox, Firefox Focus, and I currently have DDG set as my main browser.

And of course I can delete Safari from my iphone if I wanted to.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

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post #8

All this applies to iOS and safari too

Really? I Never got a weird message from Apple about other browsers being bad or potentially dangerous, and I tried Vivaldi, DDG, Brave, Firefox, Firefox Focus, and I currently have DDG set as my main browser. And of course I can delete Safari from my iphone if I wanted to.

You don't get that message from Apple, but the people who would otherwise offer you a meaningful choice of browsers do. They can only do what Apple permits them to do, which isn't much.

Re: Dear Microsoft, enough is enough

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? I Never got a weird message from Apple about other browsers being bad or potentially dangerous, and I tried Vivaldi, DDG, Brave, Firefox, Firefox Focus, and I currently have DDG set as my main browser. And of course I can delete Safari from my iphone if I wanted to.

You don't get that message from Apple, but the people who would otherwise offer you a meaningful choice of browsers do. They can only do what Apple permits them to do, which isn't much.

They need to get their browsers listed on AppStore, sure.
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