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Re: SpaceX: Flying High on Impunity

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Post by ScoobleDoodle » Fri, Jun 05, 2026, 5:41 AM UTC

sidcool wrote: post #2

> "but it is a trash bag of Musk ventures and crimes" If people really want to take anti-Musk articles seriously, the hyperbole should be controlled. Elon's no saint, but his companies are not a criminal enterprise.

IIRC SpaceX bought 20% of the Tesla Cyber Trucks in 2025. Shady af.

Re: SpaceX: Flying High on Impunity

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Post by spiderfarmer » Fri, Jun 05, 2026, 5:41 AM UTC

holoduke wrote: post #9

anonymous_user9 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So how many years can Tesla lie about FSD before it becomes a crime? How much CSAM and revenge porn can X generate before it becomes a crime? How many bribes can he give the president before it becomes a crime? How much data can his lackeys at DOGE exfiltrate before it becomes a crime? How many poor people can he kill before it becomes a crime? How many sig heils and eugenics memes can he emit until he's considered a…

How many sig heila did he perform if I may ask? I saw one in a video. Are there more?

That one was enough for me. What’s your threshold?

Re: SpaceX: Flying High on Impunity

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Post by blueaquilae » Fri, Jun 05, 2026, 5:42 AM UTC

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Re: SpaceX: Flying High on Impunity

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Post by wg0 » Fri, Jun 05, 2026, 5:46 AM UTC

sidcool wrote: post #2

> "but it is a trash bag of Musk ventures and crimes" If people really want to take anti-Musk articles seriously, the hyperbole should be controlled. Elon's no saint, but his companies are not a criminal enterprise.

Might not be crimes but criminal behavior is pretty evident.

Re: SpaceX: Flying High on Impunity

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Post by spiderfarmer » Fri, Jun 05, 2026, 5:47 AM UTC

dyauspitr wrote: post #3

sidcool wrote: post #2

> "but it is a trash bag of Musk ventures and crimes" If people really want to take anti-Musk articles seriously, the hyperbole should be controlled. Elon's no saint, but his companies are not a criminal enterprise.

I agree. He is a Nazi pos and I want to see him fail, but not his companies.

It’s people like you that cause Tesla to have a massively inflated 25x the market cap of Volkswagen AG with only half the profits. The Cult of Tesla is too big to fail.

Re: SpaceX: Flying High on Impunity

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Post by samrus » Fri, Jun 05, 2026, 5:48 AM UTC

holoduke wrote: post #9

anonymous_user9 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So how many years can Tesla lie about FSD before it becomes a crime? How much CSAM and revenge porn can X generate before it becomes a crime? How many bribes can he give the president before it becomes a crime? How much data can his lackeys at DOGE exfiltrate before it becomes a crime? How many poor people can he kill before it becomes a crime? How many sig heils and eugenics memes can he emit until he's considered a…

How many sig heila did he perform if I may ask? I saw one in a video. Are there more?

How many do you need?

Re: SpaceX: Flying High on Impunity

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Post by spiderfarmer » Fri, Jun 05, 2026, 5:51 AM UTC

blueaquilae wrote: post #13

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Your lack of empathy does nothing to refute the facts in the article.

Re: SpaceX: Flying High on Impunity

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Post by igor47 » Fri, Jun 05, 2026, 5:54 AM UTC

tehjoker wrote: post #5

does this mean it's a good idea to sell index funds to avoid holding SpaceX? what do you do instead?

I'm pretty mad about the blatant manipulation of index funds by spacex, and I looked into how to avoid the IPO. If you're like me, the amount of unrealized gains from index funds over the past few years mean the tax penalty of exiting these funds is just too big (the majority of my money is not in tax advantage accounts like a 401k). If not for the tax reasons, I would probably go with a direct index. Vanguard and Fidelity both have em. But honestly even at inflated float ratios this stock makes a very small part of the overall index. What I hate is forcibly being made party to such blatant manipulation, but like any other "concentrated benefits, diffuse costs" situation, it's probably too low a real cost for most people to deal with.

Re: SpaceX: Flying High on Impunity

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Post by spiderfarmer » Fri, Jun 05, 2026, 5:54 AM UTC

tristanj wrote: post #6

dandanua wrote: post #4

Since Trump is in charge, there is a high chance that this global stock market casino can go bankrupt as well. He is having a hand of Midas that works in reverse.

No. Trump has done practically everything possible to pump up the stock market, during both of his terms.

The US economy is running on fumes.

Re: SpaceX: Flying High on Impunity

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Post by dyauspitr » Fri, Jun 05, 2026, 6:29 AM UTC

spiderfarmer wrote: post #15

dyauspitr wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. He is a Nazi pos and I want to see him fail, but not his companies.

It’s people like you that cause Tesla to have a massively inflated 25x the market cap of Volkswagen AG with only half the profits. The Cult of Tesla is too big to fail.

Who else is atleast attempting to bring chip manufacturing to the US with terafab and that too while using another US companies’ most advanced chip since they will be using Intel’s 14A process. There’s a good chance this brings Intel back from a decline. I’m in full support of humanoid robots and Optimus could be promising. Both SpaceX and Starlink provide a lot of value.