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Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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I am highly opposed to these glasses, but there's nothing you can do about it in public besides swearing at these people and not being friends with them.

Sometimes I have wished I had a handheld EMP gun for such situations. What are they going to do? It would be harmless to living beings and leave no trace. Their device would simply stop working suddenly.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Sorry that you have to deal with this condition. What method do you use currently to help with recognising them?

Like the poster, I'm faceblind. It isn't the worst thing: I'm not voice blind, height blind, age blind, hairstyle blind, gender blind, features associated with race and ethnicity blind, attractiveness blind, affect blind, context blind, etc., so I'm mostly good at figuring out who someone is. Within one encounter with a bunch of people, I try to note what someone is wearing. Every once in a while I don't recognize so…

This is fascinating. So you know that you've met someone before. You know things about them. But you don't recognize them? What does this mean? You don't remember their name? You don't know why or how you know them?

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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I wish something like this existed that was completely offline. I'm face blind (prosopagnosia) so being able to feed an offline database photos of friends so it can recognise them would be great. Accessibility shouldn't require giving up privacy.

Probably quite feasible. Immich on my little raspberry pi is able to do facial recognition for 50k images over night.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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How does HN feel about this as a general ethos:

- Computers can do as much work as they want to automatically, so long as none of it touches a network boundary.

- Any time a computer wants to touch the network it must be explicitly initiated by a human action. Sort of like how in browsers capturing the mouse or entering fullscreen mode requires a trusted user action and isn't something a page can do unilaterally, but broader. This also means that the extent of the network communication must be made explicit and clear with no chance of misunderstanding by the user. If what you're doing is genuinely complex beyond your ability to communicate to your target user then you shouldn't be doing it on the behalf of that user. Note that this only really applies to mass consumer products, not something built/deployed internally.

I feel like if a hard boundary is not set around this we will end up in a Panopticon. Set aside governments actively pushing for it, it seems a simple profit motive in a digital era yields this outcome. Maybe nuanced rules would produce better outcomes in theory, but humans don't seem great at sticking to nuanced and fiddly rules when there's strong incentive to bend them beyond recognition.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Do these emit something unique that could be detected so that loud klaxon could let everyone know there is a glasshole approaching? Some unique bluetooth identifier perhaps?

Someone posted a tool that does this recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47140042

Wow, no idea how I missed that thread. Thankyou.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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I fail to see how nonstop recording of every interaction with people in everyday life will pass muster in a two-party consent state.

My understanding is that those laws cover audio, not video.

Perhaps the laws should be modernized

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

#130

Start up idea: Ordinary glass (as in spectacles) frames that have a near IR LED on the bridge and on the side. PWM to be efficient, bright, but erratic clock of around 10Hz. Want a picture of me? Ask, or use film.

I expect cameras will start to come with built-in IR filters in that case.
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