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When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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Is this the moment when the AI gets permission to approve its own PRs: https://www.italianrenaissance.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/0... Or is this? https://www.egypttoursportal.com/images/2024/02/Ouroboros-Sy...

more like the "Obama Awards Obama a Medal" meme:

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/obama-awards-obama-a-medal

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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Okay, so anthropic has amazing AI which supposedly writes most of their code and can continuously improve... meanwhile they have outages on a regular basis, and any kind of long-running work will now consistently hit 'API Error: Server is temporarily limiting requests'. Not sure of this is intentional to force a reduction of token usage, but at this point I need to build around these throttling limits and outages wit…

Infrastructure is a much harder problem. They can't even improve Claude Code, which eats 1GB+ of RAM. Meanwhile, my editor only consumes 80MB of RAM.

This might explain it, in the opposite way it was meant to:

https://fxtwitter.com/trq212/status/2014051501786931427

> Most people's mental model of Claude Code is that "it's just a TUI" but it should really be closer to "a small game engine".

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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So in the latest L. Ron Hubbard encyclical Anthropic informs its flock that recursive self-improvement does not work yet but that their engineers burn more tokens.

The Claude code quality and operational security of Anthropic have already been analyzed by the public.

If you compare the output of (purportedly) trillion dollar corporations to Bell Labs or even Microsoft Research it is embarrassing. But the output is a fixture on any discussion board.

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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After several months with their top engineers and state-of-the-art AI on the job, Anthropic managed to "reduce flickering by 85%" on their TUI Claude Code client, which is built in fucking React and rendered by drawing the entire chat conversation each time (hence the flicker). I think they've since eliminated it completely by slapping some double-buffering around it (since "our client is actually a real-time game engine" after all). Meanwhile for decades Emacs and Vim have had an optimizer built into their display cores that solves for the minimum set of terminal escape commands it takes to transform the screen from a given old state to a desired new state.

You will forgive me when, between muted snickers, I express considerable doubt that Anthropic will be able to bring its AI to a point of "self-improving" any time soon.

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Infrastructure is a much harder problem. They can't even improve Claude Code, which eats 1GB+ of RAM. Meanwhile, my editor only consumes 80MB of RAM.

Try 64K! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_Pascal Also remember when XP was super bloated cause it needed 64MB?

I loved Turbo Pascal....

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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The world has been recursively self improving for millenia. Similar to scientology, this is a cult pushing sci-fi nonsense. They are just coupled to an LLM lab to give their stories an aire of seriousness. Imagine scientology starting making laptops.

TBH the more Anthropic keeps yapping the more desperate they seem now. OAI has been pretty quiet in comparison lately.

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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Okay, so anthropic has amazing AI which supposedly writes most of their code and can continuously improve... meanwhile they have outages on a regular basis, and any kind of long-running work will now consistently hit 'API Error: Server is temporarily limiting requests'. Not sure of this is intentional to force a reduction of token usage, but at this point I need to build around these throttling limits and outages wit…

Look, I've never been someone who mindlessly hypes AI companies, as a matter of fact I think they have serious leadership problems across the board, but you people are straw-manning them so badly it actually makes me sympathize with them.

They aren't saying they have fully automated luxury AGI, they specifically list the ways models fall short of that bar and caution against people taking the 8x figure as the actual uplift number. At the same time they recognize that 80% of new code is now AI-authored, when two years ago those models were little more than toys. And frankly that checks out: if two years ago you told me we'd have something like Opus 4.8/GPT 5.5 I would have rolled to disbelieve.

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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I fail to see how pursuing recursive self-improvement at full speed is compatible with Anthropic's stated goal of AI Safety. If nukes were not invented yet, would it really be a good idea to build and sell them as fast as possible (in peace time, no less)?

I am not cynical enough to believe that Anthropic's warnings are pure marketing hype. Let's hope that it is instead overconfidence or the result of too much time talking to their own chatbot.

Re: When AI Builds Itself: Our progress toward recursive self-improvement

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>A caveat: Lines of code is an imperfect measure, as it measures quantity over quality. So 8× lines of code/engineer/day in the second quarter of 2026 is almost certainly an overstatement of the true productivity gain. Nonetheless, it indicates an acceleration. At Anthropic, we don’t reward people for how many lines of code they write; rather, team members are producing more code simply because they’re using AI syste…

AI generates code that mimics the existing code. If your code is terse and comment-free, then the agent’s code is too. The times I’ve seen Claude drift into a default “house style” it generated like 1 comment for every 10 LOC or so. It’s a far cry from the GPT-3 days that littered every line with the journals of Captain Obvious.
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