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Re: Sagrada Família Lego set

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Post by AlotOfReading »

zuzululu wrote: post #103
AlotOfReading wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pantasy, Cobi, Funwhole, megabloks, etc. There's tons of alt bricks at nearly any reasonable price point. But you're still not going to find these sorts of multi-thousand piece sets for <$100 because it takes at least a few cents to produce a dimensionally accurate, quality controlled bit of plastic.

But thats because they limit production to control prices, producing mass volume accurate plastic was never the bottleneck.

These are remarkably close to the raw cost of materials and tooling. The Sagrada Familia model is a 12k piece set for $800, ~$0.07/piece. Phantasy has an unlicensed Opera set (85019) [0] with 3.5k pieces for $190, $0.05/piece. That's straight up cheap. They're not limiting production to control prices. High quality injection molding (in multiple colors no less!) is hard. 2 cents over 12k pieces does add up to a nice bit of change for Lego though.

[0] https://pantasy.com/products/pantasy-the-opera-85019

Re: Sagrada Família Lego set

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Post by WheatMillington »

liendolucas wrote: post #10

When I was a kid I used to spend entire days building and creating new stuff once I built the designs from the booklets. Today when I see a Lego kit is kind of another toy: is designed to build one and only one design, compared to the generic kits that were sold and also popular many years ago. All these new kits pieces are just to accomplish one build. The Lego spirit of ever combining and creating with same pieces…

Weird perspective. When I was a kid (I'm 41) we were given sets - pirate ship, submarine, police sets. They were designed as a kit... and once we built the kid we'd pull it apart and use the parts for all sorts of things. Now my kids do they very same thing with modern kits. I'm not sure why you think today's lego is different?

Re: Sagrada Família Lego set

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Post by genocidicbunny »

spuz wrote: post #88

I normally love Lego's interpretation of various real architectural works but I don't believe there is enough detail here to really capture the unique style of Gaudi's design.

They're doing the best they can given the budget and size constraints. The set has to simultaneously be interesting and not tedious to build, cost a somewhat reasonable amount, not be too huge that no one can display or even reasonably build it at home, and able to closely enough replicate what they're trying to model.

Could they make a bigger version of this set that is more closely resembling the real thing? More than likely, yeah they can; look at the displays they have at Legoland. But would that more detailed version be accessible for even the well off AFOL? Most likely not. It'd be too big, too expensive, and too unwieldy, and will probably still fail to capture some of the details of the real thing.

Re: Sagrada Família Lego set

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Post by card_zero »

pickleglitch wrote: post #56
sizzzzlerz wrote: post #21

Once built, what does one do with this? Generally, these are fragile in the sense that moving them can cause parts of it to become disconnected or fall apart so you don't want to be moving it around to much. It's going to take up a whole lot of space. Your kids can't actually play with it. And if you intend to show it off, you aren't really showing any real skills except for the ability to follow pages and pages of i…

For me, when I was into legos, the answer would be: take it apart and add the pieces to my larger collection, from which I can build whatever I want.

This cathedral would make a very fine intergalactic battlecruiser.

Re: Sagrada Família Lego set

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Post by nikhilisvalid »

echoangle wrote: post #106
slg wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it doesn't appear to either be designed at a consistent scale or be a solid rectangular cuboid making volume feel like an even less accurate basis for my silly joke.

The shape doesn't matter for the scaling as long as it is a 3-dimensional object that is scaled in all directions. And I think for the actual value you get, scaling by volume would actually be more accurate.

The original took 144 years to build, and this model is anywhere between 153 to 278 times smaller. If one were to scale by volume, the build time would take at most 22 minutes, and at least 3.

I think scaling linearly works better here

Re: Sagrada Família Lego set

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Post by lovich »

sizzzzlerz wrote: post #21

Once built, what does one do with this? Generally, these are fragile in the sense that moving them can cause parts of it to become disconnected or fall apart so you don't want to be moving it around to much. It's going to take up a whole lot of space. Your kids can't actually play with it. And if you intend to show it off, you aren't really showing any real skills except for the ability to follow pages and pages of i…

Just put it up for display. Me and my wife built several sets just to have an activity to do together, and then the resulting displays are memories of those fun times.

Re: Sagrada Família Lego set

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Post by electrosphere »

card_zero wrote: post #114
pickleglitch wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, when I was into legos, the answer would be: take it apart and add the pieces to my larger collection, from which I can build whatever I want.

This cathedral would make a very fine intergalactic battlecruiser.

You could probably make Rocky's ship from Project Hail Mary with this cathedral model.

Re: Sagrada Família Lego set

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Post by olyjohn »

sizzzzlerz wrote: post #21

Once built, what does one do with this? Generally, these are fragile in the sense that moving them can cause parts of it to become disconnected or fall apart so you don't want to be moving it around to much. It's going to take up a whole lot of space. Your kids can't actually play with it. And if you intend to show it off, you aren't really showing any real skills except for the ability to follow pages and pages of i…

Sometimes the build is the fun part. Haven't you ever put together a puzzle?

Re: Sagrada Família Lego set

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Post by genocidicbunny »

caseysoftware wrote: post #104

I have the 2017 edition of the Lego Millenium Falcon and ~7500 pieces took about 30 hours without being super organized or focused. At that rate, this is almost 50 hours of assembly but I'd wager there's a ton of duplication in this one, likely speeding things up. And yes, for these sorts of sets, you put them on display. I added LEDs to mine: https://x.com/CaseySoftware/status/1766667069003645362

I'd love to see the back of that if you actually integrated the LEDs into the main engine (and I apologize if you did post other photos, I have X mostly blocked so I can only see the directly linked post.) I've been hacking at adding some lights to a few sets that I thought would look great with actual lighting on them, and my biggest challenge has been the routing of all the wires in a way where the lights actually look like they're integrated into the set and not just randomly sticking out of places.
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