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EU should expand to 40 states – including Canada

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Re: EU should expand to 40 states – including Canada

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The EU's problem isn't that it's too small--its population is larger than the US already. Its problem is that it's not unified. It can't act as one country the way the US and China can. The EU works by consensus of its member states. It does not have a strong executive that can, hypothetically, drop bombs on Iran without a vote in parliament. But it also can't defend Ukraine as fully as it needs to. Russia is economi…

Actually, the EU has lots of (probably) intractible problems. For example the closest thing it has to a constitution is the TREATY OF LISBON (the constitution project having fallen apart), which begins HIS MAJESTY THE KING OF THE BELGIANS ( https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A... ). Compare that with the US constitution that begins "We the People of the United States" and you start to understa…

And yet, the US seems much closer to absolute monarchy than Belgium with their actual king.

Re: EU should expand to 40 states – including Canada

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Didn’t the UK not six years ago vote to leave the EU? Is he suggesting that there’s demand from Britain to reverse that? Or is he suggesting they be forced to rejoin?

Millions of Leave voters have died in the decade since the referendum.

Graph: https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/202...

Article: https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/peter-kellner-an-anti-brexit-m...

Re: EU should expand to 40 states – including Canada

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

well Australia at least shares some cultural values with Europe, while certain genocidal Asian participant...

Another one that should not be part, and yet almost won this year, so much for public opinion on those matters.

more like bot farms trying to raise their image in Europe with this PR campaign, I would really like to see vote statistics

Re: EU should expand to 40 states – including Canada

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post #43
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, the EU has lots of (probably) intractible problems. For example the closest thing it has to a constitution is the TREATY OF LISBON (the constitution project having fallen apart), which begins HIS MAJESTY THE KING OF THE BELGIANS ( https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A... ). Compare that with the US constitution that begins "We the People of the United States" and you start to understa…

And yet, the US seems much closer to absolute monarchy than Belgium with their actual king.

But that’s my point. The US can act as a unified state whereas the EU often cannot.

The difference between “We the people” and “The King of the Belgians + 20 other leaders” is stark: one is united, the other is not.

No one wants Europe to be authoritarian, but it could stand to act more united.

Re: EU should expand to 40 states – including Canada

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The EU's problem isn't that it's too small--its population is larger than the US already. Its problem is that it's not unified. It can't act as one country the way the US and China can. The EU works by consensus of its member states. It does not have a strong executive that can, hypothetically, drop bombs on Iran without a vote in parliament. But it also can't defend Ukraine as fully as it needs to. Russia is economi…

There's a lot of ways the EU is more strongly federated than the US. Also the US rarely ratifies treaties. There have been six since the year 2000. Economically, the Soviet Union and China were historically dictatorships, with command economies, but their modern operations are fascist, with the state exercising ownership or control over organizations operating in competitive markets.

If by “federated” you mean that power is distributed, then I agree with you. That’s part of the problem.

Re: EU should expand to 40 states – including Canada

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post #35
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Didn’t the UK not six years ago vote to leave the EU? Is he suggesting that there’s demand from Britain to reverse that? Or is he suggesting they be forced to rejoin?

The problem the UK has had is that although the British people voted to leave the EU, most MPs we're against it and there was a very concerted effort to not honour the electorate's wishes. Brexit happened in name and by default. It was the worst possible outcome, but probably predictable.

It was a bit more nuanced than that. Each politician was trying to leave in their own image and failing to get anything through parliament, until Boris Johnson got a majority party.

What would have been better is if the politicians who started the whole thing to settle party politics didn't bugger off the moment things didn't go their way and instead did a follow up referendum with the options for leaving. I don't necessarily think the eventual deal would have been different, but it would have stopped a lot of the bickering. And maybe have exposed what leaving meant to a greater number of people.

I don't live in the UK any more, but I do enjoy reading the stories along the lines of "I voted for brexit and now my business has gone to shit" of which there are a surprisingly large number. The whole "we didn't want them telling us what to do but didn't think they'd apply rules to us like we weren't in the EU" crowd.

Re: EU should expand to 40 states – including Canada

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No thanks. Canada is better off as an sovereign state.

As a Canadian citizen, I wish we had the gdpr and consumer protection laws we had in Europe, especially about warranty (2 years, from the STORE).

Gdpr is a nice thought that is a practical disaster. The regulatory burden is insane.
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