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Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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I like how I can slap up a free Turnstile on my projects in two minutes and not have to worry about endless comment spam and user registration spam. Yes, I understand there's problems with Cloudflare, but there's also a lot of problems out there in the wild west of an open internet.

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Someone doesn't remember using forums before captchas were invented...

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Yes. Pay for software from independent developers and small businesses. The entire reason big tech is where it is is because nobody wants to pay for software, and big tech is the way to make money off of "free" software. Software developers need money to eat, so this is the inevitable result of demanding everything for free. Actions meet consequences.

While this is the idealist point of view, if you earn 100K a year from open source work - and that's already the top 0.1% if not less of open source developers - and a company comes around to buy you out for $10 million plus a 300K / year job (for example)... open source etc just can't compete.

Well that is why it is open source. It doesn't matter how big the company is behind it, you can use it without the company that owns the name, and even use a different, small tech company for support.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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So is the business model of these projects - 1. build a popular dev tool 2. aquire funding 3. hire great talent 4. pray for an aqui-hire that justifies the initial funding amount I wonder how the initial investors feel about the aqui-hire path... Must be a pretty nice sum for them to agree to it, or they saw that the path to any revenue was near impossible/non-existant

I mean, the alternative is a whole bunch of BS dealing with funding, global compliance and sales, public markets, etc.

It's more fun to just build the fun bits, get acquired, walk away with a lot of money, and start over again doing the fun bits (if you want to keep working).

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Love Vite, but always felt sorry for them because it was not clear how they can make money, the whole VoidZero thing felt like a stretch.

It's one of those things that always stopped me from building cool tools - you have to make a living somehow.

So I am happy for the team of builders that they were able to receive the deserved payout and sustainability.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Big fan of Cloudflare and a bigger fan of vite. Probably one of the best outcomes for the latter.

What do you like about Cloudfare? Do you like the centralization of the internet?

My issue with Cloudflare is how they enshittify all the open-source & closed-soure utilities they maintain. They vibe code it all now. It's crap. I'm sad Vite/Vue/whatever will go the way of that. Oh well, there's always Svelte. For now.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Love Vite, but always felt sorry for them because it was not clear how they can make money, the whole VoidZero thing felt like a stretch. It's one of those things that always stopped me from building cool tools - you have to make a living somehow. So I am happy for the team of builders that they were able to receive the deserved payout and sustainability.

A lot of these very popular FOSS products/frameworks simply are the worst ways to make money. You are selling to a demographic that doesn't want to pay for the tools and value they get. You end up competing against your own free version that can now be modified with a bit of AI agent session to get feature parity.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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I could see Cloudflare wanting them for 50 Million. Cloudflare recent acquisitions have clearly been "buy tools with heavy lock in" and companies shipping on Void are likely heavily locked in.

Isn't their revenue just sponsorships and donations? This seems like a company destined to scrape by despite their popularity, like Tailwind. You don't get $50 million for that.

void.cloud was their revenue plan, but it was still in private beta at this point.
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