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Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by NicuCalcea »

graemep wrote: post #119
NicuCalcea wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not claiming it's an infallible system and that no single cent of my money goes to Russia. I just do what's within my powers based on the information I have.

You cannot have an infallible system, but my point is that Kagi keeps getting highlighted, but no-one else seems to.

In my circles, Europe's (continuing) dependency on Russian fossil fuels is discussed often and at length. This being a tech forum, it's to be expected that conversations would revolve around tech products like Kagi. Off the top of my head, Russian connections are also brought up in relation to OnlyOffice and Telegram.

But I agree, we should be more vigilant about who and what our money supports.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by aboardRat4 »

orphea wrote: post #125
aboardRat4 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a democracy because they neglect their shareholder duties. In other words, they are responsible for not making it a democracy.

This is a naive point of view. I can't blame you though, you probably live in a better part of the world.

The world also consists of people. Are you saying that people around me are better than the Russians? Sure, nice to have finally agree about something.

But that just proves the point you were trying to argue with.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by BrunoBernardino »

mrngld wrote: post #71

Honestly didn't notice Kagi was US-domiciled. Their meetups I think are typically in Europe and their co-working and office space is in Belgrade. Anyway, Kagi's excellent, their search results for me are significantly better than Google (and customizable), they've leveraged AI in a way thats optional and, to me, class-leading in its ability to help with search. "But we're EU based" is a product strategy that might la…

Great point! In our comparison page with Kagi it should become clearer that’s not our only product differentiator. If you’re happy with Kagi, that’s great, it’s a very good product! We don’t want world domination. :)

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by sijow »

BrunoBernardino wrote: post #26
my_throwaway23 wrote: post #14

As much as I'd prefer a smaller, non-american operator (for most anything really), I'm extremely hesitant to pay directly for search. For this service, the "just an ID as account" looks nice and private on the surface, but once you look at payment methods, it's 100% personally identifiable. If it's so privacy-focused - where's the payment option for transferring Monero? As for the code - don't get me started. Source…

We're working towards accepting cash by mail in a month or two, and regarding cryptocurrencies, we've been trying to reach out to proxysto.re unsuccessfully for that. If you know of a similar option, we'd love to hear about it!

Taler could be a good match: it's a digital coin that has been in development for a long time and is currently starting to see real use. It guarantees the anonymity of the buyer but not the merchant (to avoid tax evasion and money laundering). It's not a cryptocurrency (no blockchain, no intrinsic value with floating rate), it's really a digital form of whatever currency your exchange uses.

Now the only working exchange I know is in Switzerland (https://taler-ops.ch/en/). I wonder if you could legally use that from another country... I think GLS Bank is also supposed to have an exchange running in Germany some time this year but there have been delays in the past. Anyway it's probably still a bit early but it could be something to consider.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by orphea »

aboardRat4 wrote: post #132
orphea wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a naive point of view. I can't blame you though, you probably live in a better part of the world.

The world also consists of people. Are you saying that people around me are better than the Russians? Sure, nice to have finally agree about something. But that just proves the point you were trying to argue with.

No, you misread. I didn't say people around you are better; I said you probably live in a country with working government institutions and fair elections.

I don't feel you approach this discussion in good faith. I see no point in continuing.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by distances »

sevg wrote: post #56
axegon_ wrote: post #40

I'd be more than willing to subscribe and support the project BUT, I need to address the elephant in the room: The reason why I'm against Kagi is the fact that they use Yandex(be it only for images according to their own words) and I'm sure as hell refusing to give a single cent to them. So I guess my question is: sources?

But is Yandex government owned? What about Russians abroad that send money back home to their families, and a percentage of that ends up going via taxes to Putin? Are we boycotting all Russians everywhere globally?

All businesses based in Russia should be boycotted, also second-hand (so businesses that deal with other businesses based in Russia).

If I knew someone was sending money to Russia, I would of course avoid any contact (let alone financial ties) with them.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by Havoc »

Nice - I like this. Especially that I can also use it via API too and that expectations are limits are set out clearly (which seem very generous).

On limits - consider changing the short limit on this:

> searches to 1 per second, 30 per minute, and 1800 per hour.

to 5 per 5 seconds or 10/10. That still works out to one per second but users are less likely to accidentally hit it with two requests that have similar timing. Say one from me and one from API usage.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by BrunoBernardino »

Havoc wrote: post #137

Nice - I like this. Especially that I can also use it via API too and that expectations are limits are set out clearly (which seem very generous). On limits - consider changing the short limit on this: > searches to 1 per second, 30 per minute, and 1800 per hour. to 5 per 5 seconds or 10/10. That still works out to one per second but users are less likely to accidentally hit it with two requests that have similar tim…

Good point. We have never had any reports of customers legitimately hitting these, but we can probably loosen them up a bit.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by lolc »

BrunoBernardino wrote: post #60
bigblind wrote: post #39

It doesn't do great on recent events it seems. The amusement park Walibi Belgium recently announced a company called RMC is doing a makeover of their wooden roller coaster, so I did a search for "walibi belgium rmc", and it found one very out-of-date article about earlier rumours, and a bunch of less relevant stuff.

Thanks! I'm currently in the middle of building a date filter I expect to launch later today. Still, was this using Mojeek or EUSP? Have you tried Linkup or Serper for those kinds of searches? You don't have to change your default search providers, you can just choose one from the bottom of the results list.

Wait do I have to choose what search provider I use for every search? They don't get merged by Uruky?

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by BrunoBernardino »

KomoD wrote: post #88

> EU servers, EU storage, EU payment processing, EU search providers (Marginalia, Mojeek, EUSP, etc.). > All servers and data are physically in the EU. All search providers are based in the EU. Payment processing is done in the EU. Mojeek and Serper aren't EU so that's just false. And I'm not sure all the providers only use EU servers so I don't like the claim for that reason too. > Try in: Google // DuckDuckGo // Ec…

Dang. You’re right that Mojeek is UK, so Europe but not EU (at the moment, at least). I’ll need to add a remark for that. We already do it for Serper.

Regarding the servers, our servers and data are in the EU. We can’t guarantee that for our providers, but they don’t access your data.

As for Try in/Try with, good point, we can add a preference for swapping them.

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