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What’s the Google one? Flutter?
Angular. Flutter hardly matters.
You say that, but Cloudflare just rewrote their WARP / Cloudflare One clients in Flutter. It really sucks, but they are using it.
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#82Interesting acquisition. Curious how VoidZero's tech will integrate with Cloudflare's stack.
Not so much about the tech as it's about the talent they aquired.
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#83So is the business model of these projects - 1. build a popular dev tool 2. aquire funding 3. hire great talent 4. pray for an aqui-hire that justifies the initial funding amount
I wonder how the initial investors feel about the aqui-hire path... Must be a pretty nice sum for them to agree to it, or they saw that the path to any revenue was near impossible/non-existant
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#85So now each major SPA framework belongs to a cloud provider, Vercel, Cloudflare and Google.
Ironically, Lit that was created by Google isn't maintained by it anymore. The project is, unfortunately, almost dead tho
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> As if they chose to do that. Yes, they agreed to it, That is the definition of making a choice. This is some incredible mental backflipping to suggest that their choice wasn’t their choice.
Just to steelman the GP; some people in the company made a choice while the rest had no say. I personally think the owners should get to decide, but it's an interesting duality. (assuming it's not like everyone has a share or something, in which case they would've all had to agree I guess)
> I personally think the owners should get to decide, but it's an interesting duality.
The owners of a business get to decide what to do with their business.
> (assuming it's not like everyone has a share or something, in which case they would've all had to agree I guess)
Unanimous agreement among shareholders is not necessary to sell a company.
The employees might have had some shares in the company, but not all share classes have equal voting rights. It’s also unlikely that employees in aggregate would have had enough shares to override everyone else anyway. Once shares are split among investors, founders, and employees the individual ownership of any one person or group becomes small.
I wouldn’t assume that the employees wanted to avoid acquisition. They likely benefited significantly from their shares being acquired and their new compensation packages. Imagining that the employees resisted this is projecting some other story on to them
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#87I love Vite, when I don’t forget it exists in my projects. It took things that made you feel mentally deficient and made them almost zero-config. This news does not make me happy. Same with the news about Astro earlier this year. I know it must be good for the people how have made the projects (why else would they chose to do it?) but there is something in those acquisitions that makes me uneasy.
Yeah. I don't want to sound selfish, but now I need to make plans to eventually migrate off of vite.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As if they chose to do that. Yes, they agreed to it, That is the definition of making a choice. This is some incredible mental backflipping to suggest that their choice wasn’t their choice.
Just to steelman the GP; some people in the company made a choice while the rest had no say. I personally think the owners should get to decide, but it's an interesting duality. (assuming it's not like everyone has a share or something, in which case they would've all had to agree I guess)
> I personally think the owners should get to decide
Wow. Bold opinion. The owners of a company get to decide what to do with it?
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#89This has become a very common occurrence; might be the only sustainable path forward for projects and maintainers. Win-win for all parties involved.
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#90For anyone pissing on this, you have to remember one thing... time equals money and, as someone who spent 7 years building an open source project, you make almost ZERO from doing it. At the end, if you want to continue the project, you have to sell your soul somehow, either by doing a paid tier, consulting or getting corporate sponsorship. Unless you are one of the VERY lucky ones that does the coding on the side while having a full time job (which I was in the VERY fortunate position to be in at the time).
It's going to come down to "can I afford to keep doing this for nothing"?
So for all you high and mighty people calling them sell outs and what not, I would love to see how much you've been contributing to the project in order for it to keep going.
I think what CloudFlare is doing is a good thing. They get a tremendous team that they can have help work on their infrastructure while keeping the open source projects alive.