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Special shout-out to the BBC who just embellish and release ahistorical nonsense, brainwashing kids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M-qsVS8zeU On top of ton of social programming with an overrepresentation of eg mixed race couples in shows
So, a Horrible Histories sketch correcting a common misconception is "ahistorical nonsense, brainwashing kids", because you happen to believe the common misconception? You're really not going to like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions_..., if I have understood you correctly.
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The UK has only allowed the US to use their air bases to strike Iranian offensive capability and intercept missiles launched towards middle eastern cities. Iran bombed an airport in Kuwait yesterday, for example. It's pretty obvious how the the UK's actions vs. Iran's, or even the US's, are different.
Yeah, "striking offensive capability" of a country is aggression and the country that strikes, and it's helpers are all aggressors and in the wrong as far as intl. law goes. You need to work on understanding how causality works. What happened yesterday has no bearing on what happened 2 months ago. If UK/US wanted to be in the in the clear they could have asked UNSC to authorize use of force against Iran.
Nope. The UK only responded after its own territory had been struck, as had that of allies in the region who were not part of the US and Israel’s actions.
Its role has been entirely defensive, and legal under international law as part of the right to self-defence.
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The UK doesn't have some imperialist policy of land grabs like Russia, or diplomacy through violence. In the current Iranian war the UK is only allowing it's bases to launch defensive missions, i.e. strike offensive capability or incoming missiles. So no, it is in fact the defense sector. What countries have a defense sector, if the UK doesn't?
Iran. It didn't attack anyone until it was attacked. It has been defending itself.
Iran attacked countries that played absolutely no role in the US and Israel’s attack on it, including some (like Oman) that have been fairly closely allied to the regime.
That goes far beyond what’s permissible in international law in response to an attack.
In my view the US and Israeli attacks on Iran were illegal, reprehensible, and deeply stupid. But that doesn’t mean Iran is allowed to do whatever it wants afterward, especially to countries not directly involved in hostilities. In this case Iran has also broken international law.
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The UK doesn't have some imperialist policy of land grabs like Russia, or diplomacy through violence. In the current Iranian war the UK is only allowing it's bases to launch defensive missions, i.e. strike offensive capability or incoming missiles. So no, it is in fact the defense sector. What countries have a defense sector, if the UK doesn't?
Defending those launching illegal strikes is still offensive, in both meanings of the term.
The UK was defending its allies who had not launched illegal strikes, but were themselves attacked by Iran in contravention of international law.
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"our country isn't ready for war" is more difficult to disproof than "solar panels only last for 15 years", so while I agree that disclosures should go for every conflict on interest, it makes sense that the research focused only on this portion of them
i dont buy it ..if the concren is undisclosed affiliations, then study all undisclosed affiliations .. instead we get a defence only study, because "defence industry ties" are assumed to be inherently suspect ..
Regardless, when the topic is national security, defence- ector experience is often exactly the expertise you want... not some acadmic or commie whod rather we not
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Yes, the military is fed by the one thing all cultures have in common - their susceptibility to warrior narcissism - and indeed in the modern age any military is little more than a criminal murder-class protected by a thin line of paper. However, murder is meat. Wars feed people. Not often the 'right' people, but the moment one starts drawing another such thin line about who and who doesn't deserve to be fed, the nar…
I don't know how you can post something this stupid after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Well, lets see .. the invasion and destruction of Iraq, the destruction of Libya, Afghanistan, Syria .. the violence in Somalia .. the genocide of Gaza, and now ethnic cleansing in Lebanon.
You can say as many stupid things as you want, until the war crimes are prosecuted, the war criminals will continue to get away with war.
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In the context of Julian Assanges' treatment by UK media, and his subsequent disassembly at Belmarsh, who cares what they have to say about Russia or China.
In the context of Assange turning out to be russian mouthpiece. Well deserved.
This justification for state violence is false.
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Does it say that in the full report somewhere else? I can't find that in the text. I think most people would be surprised if ex senior military Personnel didn't think military spending should be increased.
>I think most people would be surprised if ex senior military Personnel didn't think military spending should be increased. When all you know is a hammer...
Today, the UK's Navy for example is so diminished due to cuts by successive governments, that it would struggle to defend even Britain's shores.
See for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBe_36XfZb4
UK military capability is not what perhaps persists in some people's imaginations, even compared to say 20 years ago.
Britain does need to increase military spending.
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#180While I'm neither a Brit, nor a professional historian, my understanding is that corruption - meaning everything from foot-dragging delivery to inferior & defective goods to exorbitant prices to outright theft - is an ageless problem in the UK military equipment & supplies business. And it was an ageless problem before the Acts of Union (1707, England & Scotland) had even created the UK. And it has rather often been a problem at such scale as to have serious strategic consequences.
(Not that the UK's gov't actually required outside corruption to ruinously squander military budgets. Try asking a naval historian about Britain's post-WWII aircraft carrier construction & refit fiasco.)
My point: News sources failing to flag defense sector conflicts of interest is a minor & downstream fuss over mediocre journalism. The real problem, from the PoV of someone who really cares about the UK and its future, is that Britain both wastes vast resources and punches far below its weight, due to its massive defense sector corruption & incompetence.