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Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Is it really that hard to believe people don't want to support a state that has brutally occupied half of Europe for 50 years and is right now murdering Ukrainians every day? Russia is waging a hybrid war against Europe (and the West in general), there's no way I'd give one of their biggest tech companies even a cent.

people don't want to support a state that has brutally occupied half of Europe Sure. The comments above were about Russians though, not the state.

States consist of people. Russians are shareholders of Russia.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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What's wrong with Yandex? I think every possible criticism of Yandex I can think of could just as easily be leveled at Google or Bing.

I also don't use Kagi because of Yandex, and my reason is that it's a Russian company, owned by people close to the Russian government.

I loathe both Russian and American governments, what's a boy to do?

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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I'd be more than willing to subscribe and support the project BUT, I need to address the elephant in the room: The reason why I'm against Kagi is the fact that they use Yandex(be it only for images according to their own words) and I'm sure as hell refusing to give a single cent to them. So I guess my question is: sources?

But is Yandex government owned? What about Russians abroad that send money back home to their families, and a percentage of that ends up going via taxes to Putin? Are we boycotting all Russians everywhere globally?

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Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

people don't want to support a state that has brutally occupied half of Europe Sure. The comments above were about Russians though, not the state.

States consist of people. Russians are shareholders of Russia.

It would be true if Russia was democracy. It is not.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Honestly didn't notice Kagi was US-domiciled. Their meetups I think are typically in Europe and their co-working and office space is in Belgrade. Anyway, Kagi's excellent, their search results for me are significantly better than Google (and customizable), they've leveraged AI in a way thats optional and, to me, class-leading in its ability to help with search. "But we're EU based" is a product strategy that might la…

It seems clear to me that a company that pushes being EU-based and minimising US dependencies as a selling point doesn't really want to "conquer the globe". As a consumer it is even less important to me. Indeed, if your search provider has conquered the globe, then it's probably time to find a new one because the next logical step is turn the screws on users to maximise profits.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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I also don't use Kagi because of Yandex, and my reason is that it's a Russian company, owned by people close to the Russian government.

I loathe both Russian and American governments, what's a boy to do?

That is a tough position, I don't have a definitive answer. Perhaps you could look at supporting non-US and non-Russian companies building their own search indexes? Not sure what the state of Ecosia and Qwant's European Search Perspective is these days, but that's an option.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with Yandex? I think every possible criticism of Yandex I can think of could just as easily be leveled at Google or Bing.

I also don't use Kagi because of Yandex, and my reason is that it's a Russian company, owned by people close to the Russian government.

Kagi seems unfairly picked on here. Lots of people do business with Russia. Multiple EU countries import gas from Russia which, the UK just dropped sanctions on Russian oil, lots of countries do not have sanctions on Russia at all so buying things from those countries might involve money ending up going to Russia.

On the other hand Kagi is an American company so is at the very least abiding by US sanctions.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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post #104

Does Uruky pay Yandex like Kagi does? It's relevant to those of us boycotting Russian products and influence due to the Ukraine war.

The search providers we use are listed in our FAQ and all are Europe-based. Yandex is not included.
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