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Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by Munksgaard »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #8
BrunoBernardino wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be clear, you don't need to top up (only click the link or try a search) _and_ do the captcha. You can _either_ top up for a month, _or_ do the proof-of-work captcha (should just be clicking a checkbox and giving it a few seconds). The reason for the higher barrier of entry is bots/abuse. Up until a few weeks ago we didn't even have the captcha option. Without any kind of identification, it's impossible to prevent…

I'm not making a freaking account before I can even run a single search.

As far as I can tell, Kagi also requires you to create an account before you can try it out. You can of course disagree with that practice, but it is not like Uruky is requiring something far out of the ordinary.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by danielspace23 »

I think that, more than EU metasearch engines, we need EU search indexes. EUSP is already something, but they seem to be working rather slowly, compared to how quickly Brave built their own index.

It's also trivial to run a perfectly working metasearch engine with the same sources as Uruky, it's called Searxng.

In any case, good luck on this project. I personally don't think it's for me. Maybe a better user interface would change the equation, but as of now I'll stick to Qwant.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by evilmonkey19 »

I really like the idea and that it's eu-made a love it. A fee things I see with kagi which are useful and improvements:

- Hire a UI/UX person NOW! My parents and gf like using google and kagi because are easy to use.

- add the widgets like the football or the show the local store with the phone number asap. My gf is thinking about moving away from kagi because of this.

- the quick ai response is extremely useful.

- Indexing websites is super important. People doesnt know where to put the content in a website or how to make accessible. Many times i use google due to this fact.

- Make a family subscription.

- make it funny, easy to use and welcoming. The branding is SUPER important.

Good luck and I really wish you to succeed! Im paying for an account ;)

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by my_throwaway23 »

As much as I'd prefer a smaller, non-american operator (for most anything really), I'm extremely hesitant to pay directly for search.

For this service, the "just an ID as account" looks nice and private on the surface, but once you look at payment methods, it's 100% personally identifiable. If it's so privacy-focused - where's the payment option for transferring Monero?

As for the code - don't get me started. Source available? NDAs?

Smells "Private VPN" funny to me.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by freehorse »

aniviacat wrote: post #9

> EU search providers (Marginalia, Mojeek, EUSP, etc.). Does this mean this is just a meta search engine without its own index? If so, the comparison to Kagi seems misleading. The question would turn from "why not Kagi" to "why not SearxNG".

Kagi is also a metasearch engine, as it combines several third-party indexes.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by SyneRyder »

aniviacat wrote: post #9

> EU search providers (Marginalia, Mojeek, EUSP, etc.). Does this mean this is just a meta search engine without its own index? If so, the comparison to Kagi seems misleading. The question would turn from "why not Kagi" to "why not SearxNG".

Kagi is also a meta search engine. The only Kagi-owned index is Teclis, which is very small and really only indexes RSS feeds of small sites. The Kagi API supplements its Teclis results with additional results from Marginalia.

It would be nice to have more search indexes available though, especially via APIs.

I wish Kagi was a search index, back when I was a Kagi subscriber that's what I hoped my funds were going towards building.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by BrunoBernardino »

cromka wrote: post #16

I hate to say this, but those recent EU alternative counteroffers for popular products bare some really unfortunate names....

From our FAQ:

> The name has no special meaning but we read it like "Euro-key" in English. Names are hard, and we're aware it can remind people of Uruk and Uruk-hai. That's OK.

I completely understand your point, though. It's not "Google"!

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by alex7o »

I live in the EU and I use kagi, but I think you fail to understand why kagi is good and useful. In the end of the day I need a search engine to find stuff and kagi is better than google for the things I and my AI agents are searching for. If you don't get that no amount of better privacy is worth my time as a person as shit searches mean agents don't works so well a.k.a more expensive or my room becomes toastier for the agents that I run locally. (I can use it for boring personal searches, but I do 2/3 of these a day, so I am not paying 5€ for that)
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