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U.S. to dismantle system tracking Atlantic currents that are at risk of collapse

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Post by wbl »

KnuthIsGod wrote: post #94
tdb7893 wrote: post #75

What really puts all of this into perspective for me is I work in academia and one of my friends works for a defense contractor. He told me the maintenance cost per flight hour of F-35 was a bit more than $40k, which is significantly more than I make in a year as a grad student. It's crazy basic science is what's been the focus of so many cuts while it's so cheap.

How many million graduate students do you need to give the US the military hegemony and political influence over allies and adversaries that the F-35 program provides ? Looked at from a policy maker's viewpoint, things look very different.

In the right case just one. The US invasion of Afghanistan required some extremely rare language knowledge to be successful.

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Post by MengerSponge »

jimjimjim wrote: post #60

Just doing random evil things for no benefit? At this point it's just wanton vandalism. Punks in suits smashing windows and setting fire to cars. Can anyone here, hand of heart, say "I agree with this decision"?

Remember when North Carolina banned sea level rise? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/12/north-caroli...

That wasn't arbitrary, and it wasn't for no benefit. It was so that landowners along the coast could continue to use faulty sea level studies to justify state road and infrastructure investments.

This, too, isn't mindless vandalism. It's worse. It's greedy, it's short-sighted, and it's cruel.

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Post by krapp »

jazzypants wrote: post #104
KnuthIsGod wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many million graduate students do you need to give the US the military hegemony and political influence over allies and adversaries that the F-35 program provides ? Looked at from a policy maker's viewpoint, things look very different.

If we have military hegemony, then why can't we open the strait of Hormuz?

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Post by jimbob45 »

jazzypants wrote: post #104
KnuthIsGod wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many million graduate students do you need to give the US the military hegemony and political influence over allies and adversaries that the F-35 program provides ? Looked at from a policy maker's viewpoint, things look very different.

If we have military hegemony, then why can't we open the strait of Hormuz?

After all has been said about the ages of Biden and Trump, it’s ironic that having presidents with experience living through Vietnam and the Soviet-Afghan war has been so useful for their two terms.

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Post by pkulak »

_bypa wrote: post #66
maebert wrote: post #46

> Democrats in Congress have said they will “fight” plans to dismantle the system Putting “fight” into quotes here is terrific amount of low level shade for a scientific publication. chef’s kiss

"Proffer a strongly worded capitulation" was probably too much for publication.

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Post by jimbokun »

KnuthIsGod wrote: post #94
tdb7893 wrote: post #75

What really puts all of this into perspective for me is I work in academia and one of my friends works for a defense contractor. He told me the maintenance cost per flight hour of F-35 was a bit more than $40k, which is significantly more than I make in a year as a grad student. It's crazy basic science is what's been the focus of so many cuts while it's so cheap.

How many million graduate students do you need to give the US the military hegemony and political influence over allies and adversaries that the F-35 program provides ? Looked at from a policy maker's viewpoint, things look very different.

Manned aircraft are largely a waste of money in the era of drone warfare.

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Post by erickhill »

KnuthIsGod wrote: post #94
tdb7893 wrote: post #75

What really puts all of this into perspective for me is I work in academia and one of my friends works for a defense contractor. He told me the maintenance cost per flight hour of F-35 was a bit more than $40k, which is significantly more than I make in a year as a grad student. It's crazy basic science is what's been the focus of so many cuts while it's so cheap.

How many million graduate students do you need to give the US the military hegemony and political influence over allies and adversaries that the F-35 program provides ? Looked at from a policy maker's viewpoint, things look very different.

Wouldn't take very many at all, we've now learned these past four years (and even the past 2 months). All you need are drones, that are pennies on the dollar cheaper than trillion-dollar militaries. Depending on the munition, a single bomb we drop on Iran could cost between $40,000 and a couple million dollars. Think of all the high-end drones you could buy instead.

Everything is changing. Including our influence.

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Post by mindslight »

gxt wrote: post #59
boringg wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For real. Cant fix stupid. Its so sad.

Assuming the interlocutor is stupid, at any scale, 1-1 to the whole of american politics probably just highlight that you don't fully grasp their point of view, because then it wouldn't be stupid. You'd be able to explain it to them and get them to see the matter from your perspective. If you can't do that, then you don't know you're right, you might be, but there's no way for you to know, truly.

No, this is specious. I've tried to have conversations with reactionaries on topics that we both are even aligned on. It would always be crickets the moment I deviated from the reactionary talking points. The elusive point of view that is "not grasped" is merely some combination of religious fundamentalism and spiteful destruction. Which are both ultimately just rooted in stupidity.
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