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MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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The screen is too small, not usable for work, you can buy a 15-inch Linux laptop for the same price. And it might even have replaceable RAM and SSD. Also, 8 Gb is too little, it will become a useless toy several years later. Also, there are just 2 USB ports and no USB-A. Also I wonder how long the keyboard lasts and how does one replace it.

Yeah, and Dropbox is pointless, just use ftp.

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I wonder if this will cannibalize their other more expensive product lines. I know some people and have recommended this to folks that would have purchased more expensive laptops otherwise. My grandpa never needed the macbook air he has continually repurchased over the years. I am planning on purchasing one of these for my oldest, would have opted for a more expensive macbook air as well otherwise. Others that though…

Apple is more interested in getting people into ecosystem to milk services recurring revenue. They even killed high end top ram options to pump more NEOs.

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I have always had this notion that buying a Mac is the "premium" option, not just in quality, but maybe in price too. I am in the process of trying to find a business notebook for my spouse who is a Windows user. The goal is to have something that is as close to a Macbook Air as possible in terms of price, weight, performance and durability. What I am learning is that nothing that like that exists in the PC world. It…

Framework recently released their Laptop 13 Pro; their goal is to match Macbook quality while being fully open. The key issue is the price.

I definitely agree with your statement -- it's unlikely the price to performance and quality ratio on Macbooks are going to be outperformed soon.

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Top-spec computers will always shit the bed when they aren't taken care of properly (bloatware, blocked airflow, etc)

Its so weird, something i noticed (or made up) is that at my workplaces, the topspec workstations are always taking ages to boot (counting the ram?). My 15 year old xeon win box boots in about 10sec. Maybe they dont have fastboot enabled idk…

My workplace installs a ton of background software on their PCs. God help you, if it's your first time logging into any PC there and it has to load everything in your account/profile for the first time.

They don't last more than a couple of years before they start becoming painfully slow, even after being reimaged.

Whereas my 10+ year old laptops and desktops are as fast as the day I bought or assembled them.

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I could make a counterpoint: it's too cheap. It will cannibalize the market for better apple products. Mac pro is already gone. Sort of how $1.99 apps, then $0.99 apps drove the app price to free. Now apps are supported by advertising or trick subscriptions and the good/honest apps are pretty much gone. (except I do like and respect anything from omnigroup)

Fair, but I thought I addressed this in my last paragraph. My gut tells me the Neo sits at an uncomfortable price spot, given its specs, in the line up. Geeks won't buy it as a daily because they know what an Air costs and brings. I am with Christina Warren who more than twice said on MBW that the Neo is not a good fit for students as it’ll run out of air a year or two in (pun intended :)).

Bro, it's not that deep. It's a facebook/youtube/travel/college machine with a nice screen, great build quality and awesome all day battery life.

It's not an ultrageek wizz wozz local LLM performance junkie machine.

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What company upgrades their windows PCs? They give them exactly as shipped. IT department is not wasting time swapping out RAM or SSDs. And they certainly are not upgrading them over time. You just replace the entire PC if you go to 'swap' it.

I work for a little company called Boeing and all our PCs (desktops and laptops) are Dell and our IT center will upgrade SSD, memory, and even do repairs like swapping out motherboards. Probably helps the IT center folks are actually employees of Dell and this service is part of the deal Boeing has with Dell. Lots of big companies have similar deals with their hardware vendors.

Interesting. I’ve worked for company’s that were all Dell shops as well and were similarly large and they had no such deal. You got whatever PC was available (like two options, one large and one small) and no choice beyond that. If you were special and could adequately plead your case, you maybe got a desktop for the extra RAM which was special order.

Why would you even want a SSD or memory upgrade? By the time you’re out of memory, the cpu upgrade is typically worth it.

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> The thing about Apple is that as the "IT" guy for my family, its ecosystem is the one which needs the least attention from me. This is true in business/enterprise IT also. Any big company that's done a switch, or at least offered an employee choice, almost immediately saw a huge drop in help desk workload from mac users. Legacy win32 apps aside, it's baffling to me that Windows is still the dominant share of comput…

Part of that reason is Microsoft office is a third class citizen on macOS. Edit: Not sure why this would get downvoted. Weird. It absolutely lags behind windows version of the products by years. Excel did not get ribbon key shortcuts until 6 months ago. It’s a pretty terrible experience for most power users.

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Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

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I have always had this notion that buying a Mac is the "premium" option, not just in quality, but maybe in price too. I am in the process of trying to find a business notebook for my spouse who is a Windows user. The goal is to have something that is as close to a Macbook Air as possible in terms of price, weight, performance and durability. What I am learning is that nothing that like that exists in the PC world. It…

A used ThinkPad from eBay is often the best value.

Re: MacBook Neo is so popular that Apple doubled production

#380

I have always had this notion that buying a Mac is the "premium" option, not just in quality, but maybe in price too. I am in the process of trying to find a business notebook for my spouse who is a Windows user. The goal is to have something that is as close to a Macbook Air as possible in terms of price, weight, performance and durability. What I am learning is that nothing that like that exists in the PC world. It…

Framework recently released their Laptop 13 Pro; their goal is to match Macbook quality while being fully open. The key issue is the price. I definitely agree with your statement -- it's unlikely the price to performance and quality ratio on Macbooks are going to be outperformed soon.

I would not mind if it was +50% more expensive... if it was TRULY a competition to f.ex. a Macbook Air. Many more techies would not mind it. But I don't think we ware there yet.

I am rooting for Framework myself.

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