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Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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Post by Kye »

dyauspitr wrote: post #70
Kye wrote: post #69

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That's such a bleak view of men. I think they're more open to variety in their media than you give them credit for.

I actually find that view of men inspiring. Depending on what “variety” you mean, an openness to that is depressing, infuriating even. It belies a rot, grinding down the best characteristics.

I can only match your level of specificity. What do you mean? You gestured vaguely in the direction of something. What do you consider "made for men" that isn't represented now?

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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Post by dyauspitr »

Kye wrote: post #71
dyauspitr wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually find that view of men inspiring. Depending on what “variety” you mean, an openness to that is depressing, infuriating even. It belies a rot, grinding down the best characteristics.

I can only match your level of specificity. What do you mean? You gestured vaguely in the direction of something. What do you consider "made for men" that isn't represented now?

Unapologetically promiscuous leading men, women on screen purely as sex props and not in some two bit low production value shoot em up. I mean high art like countless examples in the recent past. Edgy concepts like rape, domestic abuse and general violence against women being accurately depicted on screen again when necessary to tell the story. I can appreciate strong women characters on screen but not when it’s a requirement that every woman on screen be one.

If Hollywood doesn’t figure this out in time, they will fail. Already shows like Kill Tony are becoming the biggest and most prolific stand-up shows in America. Those people can be truly funny because they have no boundaries. Listening to comics on every other show feels extremely boring now. SNL is unwatchable, late night talk shows are failing, “clean” comics play to empty arenas. The problem is those guys are straight up racist, homophobic, and misogynistic and tightly bound to the Trump administration.

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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Post by mynegation »

fmajid wrote: post #52
mynegation wrote: post #16

I am still mad at them for cancelling Wheel of Time.

TBH, it was a train wreck apart from the actresses who played Moiraine and Lanfear.

If you are measuring the show up against the books - I did not read them, so I loved it purely based on the show itself.

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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Post by fmajid »

mynegation wrote: post #74
fmajid wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TBH, it was a train wreck apart from the actresses who played Moiraine and Lanfear.

If you are measuring the show up against the books - I did not read them, so I loved it purely based on the show itself.

Yes, the TV show had massive departures from the books, but I was actually referring to the acting skill or lack thereof of most of the cast.

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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Post by Kye »

dyauspitr wrote: post #72
Kye wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only match your level of specificity. What do you mean? You gestured vaguely in the direction of something. What do you consider "made for men" that isn't represented now?

Unapologetically promiscuous leading men, women on screen purely as sex props and not in some two bit low production value shoot em up. I mean high art like countless examples in the recent past. Edgy concepts like rape, domestic abuse and general violence against women being accurately depicted on screen again when necessary to tell the story. I can appreciate strong women characters on screen but not when it’s a re…

I think we live in very different media environments. I have no idea what Kill Tony is, have always thought SNL and most late night was dull, and have a steady stream of good stand-up comedians who aren't any sort of ist or phobic in my timelines.

And I have no idea when

>> "Unapologetically promiscuous leading men, women on screen purely as sex props and not in some two bit low production value shoot em up. I mean high art like countless examples in the recent past."

would have been the norm. Even the worst of the Hays Code era had plenty of strong leading women. Before that, tons of lecherous women, queer women, etc.

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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Post by dyauspitr »

Kye wrote: post #76
dyauspitr wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unapologetically promiscuous leading men, women on screen purely as sex props and not in some two bit low production value shoot em up. I mean high art like countless examples in the recent past. Edgy concepts like rape, domestic abuse and general violence against women being accurately depicted on screen again when necessary to tell the story. I can appreciate strong women characters on screen but not when it’s a re…

I think we live in very different media environments. I have no idea what Kill Tony is, have always thought SNL and most late night was dull, and have a steady stream of good stand-up comedians who aren't any sort of ist or phobic in my timelines. And I have no idea when >> "Unapologetically promiscuous leading men, women on screen purely as sex props and not in some two bit low production value shoot em up. I mean h…

Yeah we’re probably in different bubbles. The problem is most men are in my bubble. Shane Gillis is probably the biggest comedian to come out of kill Tony and the one you’re most likely to have heard of.

Here’s how it applies to the top 10 movies on IMDb

Shawshank redemption: the well liked male protagonist righteously murders his wife for cheating on him

The Godfather: pretty much encapsulates all of my requirements

12 angry men: no women

Original LOTR: Does women characters incredibly well

Pulp fiction: Mia is in there for a few key scenes, no nonsense

The good, the bad and the ugly: self explanatory. Great male characters

Forest gump: Jenny might be the greatest villain ever for her promiscuity

I can go on and on. All these movies have gravitas. You won’t see any movie post 2015 even crack the top 100 (besides Parasite but that isn’t Hollywood) because that’s about when they lost the plot.

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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Post by cyanydeez »

le-mark wrote: post #8

> the studio were concerned that Gero’s take on the series “would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise’s already dedicated fanbase.” This is a key component in reviving a legacy IP It was popular because of who? The fans! No one needed the Disney-ization of Stargate. This is probably a good thing.

I think they were wanting the Star Warization; no matter how stupid Star Wars gets, the fans kept showing up.

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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Post by gamblor956 »

Given the many commenters who are decrying a potentially "woke" version of the show simply because it might feature a female lead character who might act like a competent officer...

...This is probably for the best. Studios try to avoid catering to the incel fandom, as that scares away everyone else who might otherwise be interested.

Also...SG-1 and Atlantis both featured competent women. Carter, Fraiser, and Weir were smart but not strong. Teyla was strong but not too bright. Most of the guest characters were minorities. The show was woke as heck.

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Post by readthenotes1 »

Sebguer wrote: post #62
readthenotes1 wrote: post #30

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you're living in a fantasy world besieged by an ideology that doesn't actually exist

Nah, just exaggerating.

Note: read about the new Wonder Woman reboot after writing original

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