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Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by Geroke »

thesuitonym wrote: post #58
mijoharas wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really sick of the enshittification of smart TV's. A while after I've had my LG TV, and found every arcane different menu you need to remove all the ads. They started sending me ads via the notification pop-up. This continued even after finding and removing the consent for advertising (that I'd missed in one of the consent pop-ups.) I've considered and looked into "dumb" TVs, but I don't think they're for me. I j…

Is it really enshittification if it was shit from the beginning?

I disagree. I much preferred it when they didn't pretend that TV should be the same as cinema. Even the mistakes are entertaining whereas on modern TV, they tend to stand out.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by JacobKfromIRC »

miki123211 wrote: post #44
riedel wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original idea of open source or rather free software is to bmactually "own" the code in a way that you can modify it to your needs. Guess this is not the case here, then. But I guess also most of android falls in that category that by now. I guess we should be using better,more attributes when describing open source

There's at least: source available - whether you can read the code open source - whether you can run (a modified version of) the code on some piece of hardware you own open hardware - whether the hardware they sell you lets you run modified versions of their code open contribution - whether they want your modifications free software - whether your modifications have to be open source too If it's at least source avail…

I think your definition of "free software" is too strict, otherwise public domain software would not be free software

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by jp191919 »

blackjack_ wrote: post #52
FloatArtifact wrote: post #15

Open source all you want! It doesn't change the fact that they're spying the contents of your screen no matter what input is being used with Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology https://docs.roku.com/published/acrservicepolicy/en/CA

Yeahhhh I had to disconnect mine from the internet due to this (I don’t want a display ad on the menu screen when I turn on my TV like WTF, my TV just enshittified itself randomly with an update that added this a year or two ago). Which would be fine but you can’t change the TV menu tile layout if you are disconnected from the internet… Just incredible layers of design stupidity here.

I use pfblockerNG(like pi-hole but for pfsense) to block ads to my roku. And I set up pi-hole at family members houses to block ads and telemetry on theirs.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by psadauskas »

FloatArtifact wrote: post #15

Open source all you want! It doesn't change the fact that they're spying the contents of your screen no matter what input is being used with Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology https://docs.roku.com/published/acrservicepolicy/en/CA

My router has a separate network for "appliances" (roku boxes, thermostats, etc) that has a very restrictive firewall that only allows internet access according to a manual allowlist.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by snapplebobapple »

thesuitonym wrote: post #57
snapplebobapple wrote: post #56

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the only good smart tv is one with no network connection. As long as the manufacturer has any control of the compute on your device they will always be pressured to abuse it to grow revenue. You need to budget 200 to 600 additional dollars for a linux box and use that

That's still not good. I recently switched from a Sceptre dumb TV to a top of the line LG OLED model, and it is sooooo slow. Everything takes forever because it's got to wait for the network connection which doesn't exist, play all its stupid animations, run the "AI" bullshit, and attempt an internet connection again.

Then you did it wrong. The tv should be turned on and set to display one port, say hdmi1 then never touched again until its time to shut it off. Volume should be handled through hdmi-cec from the tvs perspective it should get an on or off signal and maybe some volume signals and it should display hdmi and that is the entorety of its existence.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by thesuitonym »

snapplebobapple wrote: post #66
thesuitonym wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's still not good. I recently switched from a Sceptre dumb TV to a top of the line LG OLED model, and it is sooooo slow. Everything takes forever because it's got to wait for the network connection which doesn't exist, play all its stupid animations, run the "AI" bullshit, and attempt an internet connection again.

Then you did it wrong. The tv should be turned on and set to display one port, say hdmi1 then never touched again until its time to shut it off. Volume should be handled through hdmi-cec from the tvs perspective it should get an on or off signal and maybe some volume signals and it should display hdmi and that is the entorety of its existence.

I guess that's fine if you only have one device connected to your TV, and it supports CEC.

That is not my use case though.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by sitzkrieg »

dsign wrote: post #25

I wonder what would make this better (for some use cases at least) than venerable FreeRTOS? Or Zephyr? Or any of the other many, many RTOSes? In particular, the ESP32 comes with top notch documentation and SDKs that will make beginners at least want to stay with Espressif's modified RTOS for a while.

after looking at it, i would use anything else over the roku stuff if i felt the need for tasking. bare metal esp32 is easy with the espressif sdk anyway .

esp32 is way too power budget heavy for anything using batteries though. even using all deep sleep available a msp430 will leave it in the dust by a large factor. i’m surprised they use such large devices in remotes but go figure

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by yencabulator »

miki123211 wrote: post #44
riedel wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original idea of open source or rather free software is to bmactually "own" the code in a way that you can modify it to your needs. Guess this is not the case here, then. But I guess also most of android falls in that category that by now. I guess we should be using better,more attributes when describing open source

There's at least: source available - whether you can read the code open source - whether you can run (a modified version of) the code on some piece of hardware you own open hardware - whether the hardware they sell you lets you run modified versions of their code open contribution - whether they want your modifications free software - whether your modifications have to be open source too If it's at least source avail…

Your definition of free software conflicts with the FSF's:

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#SoftwareLicen...

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by b112 »

psadauskas wrote: post #65
FloatArtifact wrote: post #15

Open source all you want! It doesn't change the fact that they're spying the contents of your screen no matter what input is being used with Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology https://docs.roku.com/published/acrservicepolicy/en/CA

My router has a separate network for "appliances" (roku boxes, thermostats, etc) that has a very restrictive firewall that only allows internet access according to a manual allowlist.

I feel a cold, dark anger everytime I see my fridge has a wifi connection. I live in a rural area, with an acre+ of land, but suspect my neighbours can still see it.

And maybe an open wifi network of theirs can too.

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