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Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by antonvs »

surajrmal wrote: post #36
mijoharas wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really sick of the enshittification of smart TV's. A while after I've had my LG TV, and found every arcane different menu you need to remove all the ads. They started sending me ads via the notification pop-up. This continued even after finding and removing the consent for advertising (that I'd missed in one of the consent pop-ups.) I've considered and looked into "dumb" TVs, but I don't think they're for me. I j…

This is not "enshittification". That implies it's gotten worse over time. Smart TVs have been doing this from the beginning.

Smart TVs are the enshittification of regular TVs. An attempt to extract more money from the customer without providing a useful benefit.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by bogwog »

riedel wrote: post #20
FloatArtifact wrote: post #15

Open source all you want! It doesn't change the fact that they're spying the contents of your screen no matter what input is being used with Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology https://docs.roku.com/published/acrservicepolicy/en/CA

The original idea of open source or rather free software is to bmactually "own" the code in a way that you can modify it to your needs. Guess this is not the case here, then. But I guess also most of android falls in that category that by now. I guess we should be using better,more attributes when describing open source

"Free software" has always been a misleading term, unfortunately. Maybe calling it "Freedom software" instead would be clearer.

But when you conflate free software with open source, you get confused people cheerleading their own abuse. Android is probably the worst offender here. Google Chrome, VSCode are others that come to mind.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by mijoharas »

surajrmal wrote: post #36
mijoharas wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really sick of the enshittification of smart TV's. A while after I've had my LG TV, and found every arcane different menu you need to remove all the ads. They started sending me ads via the notification pop-up. This continued even after finding and removing the consent for advertising (that I'd missed in one of the consent pop-ups.) I've considered and looked into "dumb" TVs, but I don't think they're for me. I j…

This is not "enshittification". That implies it's gotten worse over time. Smart TVs have been doing this from the beginning.

I disagree. It's definitely gotten worse, notification ads for my TV for example.

LG also didn't used to have home screen ads, but that's a long time ago now.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by miki123211 »

riedel wrote: post #20
FloatArtifact wrote: post #15

Open source all you want! It doesn't change the fact that they're spying the contents of your screen no matter what input is being used with Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology https://docs.roku.com/published/acrservicepolicy/en/CA

The original idea of open source or rather free software is to bmactually "own" the code in a way that you can modify it to your needs. Guess this is not the case here, then. But I guess also most of android falls in that category that by now. I guess we should be using better,more attributes when describing open source

There's at least:

source available - whether you can read the code

open source - whether you can run (a modified version of) the code on some piece of hardware you own

open hardware - whether the hardware they sell you lets you run modified versions of their code

open contribution - whether they want your modifications

free software - whether your modifications have to be open source too

If it's at least source available, it can have any combination of these.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by functionmouse »

riedel wrote: post #20
FloatArtifact wrote: post #15

Open source all you want! It doesn't change the fact that they're spying the contents of your screen no matter what input is being used with Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology https://docs.roku.com/published/acrservicepolicy/en/CA

The original idea of open source or rather free software is to bmactually "own" the code in a way that you can modify it to your needs. Guess this is not the case here, then. But I guess also most of android falls in that category that by now. I guess we should be using better,more attributes when describing open source

The idea of free software, yes, is to own the code in a way that you can modify it to your needs. The idea of "open source" as a mantra is to confuse and muddle the ideas of free software in order to subvert the ideologists in that camp into supporting and furthering the goals of billionaire corporations. "Open source" as a calling card is intended to kill free software.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by LoganDark »

LeFantome wrote: post #17
LoganDark wrote: post #6

I wish they would offer the instruction in text as well rather than only in videos. Videos become stale and can't easily be used as a reference.

Get an AI to transcribe the videos for you and then ask it to create a manual from the transcription.

That's actually not the worst idea, thanks.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by UnreachableCode »

hiccuphippo wrote: post #48
UnreachableCode wrote: post #47

On the topic that will likely pervade this news item: does anyone know the best FOSS TV system

Not sure what exactly you are asking for, but check Jellyfin, it might be part of the answer.

Jellyfin is good. I'm currently using the Roku version

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by criddell »

snailmailman wrote: post #10
jgalt212 wrote: post #3

Please someone make a Roku remote with a physical keyboard.

On my rokus, I am able to use my phone as a remote via the roku app. This includes typing on mobile via my phone's keyboard. Makes logging into things much easier.

AppleTV is like that too. It's nice being able to use the password manager on my phone rather than have try to enter some long complicated password a letter at a time.
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