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Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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#181

This is great, I hope the people at Meta suffer as much as possible while working for them. They should introduce mandatory eyeball sanders next.

I was thinking of those eyelid holders from Clockwork Orange. That way you won't waste time blinking.

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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Yep. One time my manager did a hour long lecture for our team on how personal growth is important and that we all should expand our horizons and learn new stuff. When I tried to reserve 2 hours A WEEK for studying tasks I got push back that I should do it on my own time. It was a complete joke.

This sounds like the "everything you create in your own time is company property since we cannot distinguish if what you do in your own time isn't company related" clause in some contracts. Under no circumstance is it actable where I live, but it can sure scare the hell out of people and presents a line of thought. Yes, some companies think they can own copyright on the things you write at home.

I always ask companies to remove that clause from contracts, I think all offers I've ever got had that clause, but also 100% removed it on request.

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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I mean I would want to do this when I do confidential stuff like HR and Payroll. I would be interested above what level are employees are exempt from this. I don't think Meta wants to train their AI on their own C-Level execs but who knows...it's Meta

We already have a solution to this, though. It's called criminal law. Where do you draw the line if you monitor people doing HR?

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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There are tons of good reasons to work for Meta. You can work on interesting projects, build your resume and network, work on interesting engineering problems, learn from other people, and of course, they pay very well. People do need to support their family, secure their retirement and so on... Is it perfect? certainly not. Is the company toxic? where do you draw the line? how much are you willing to compromise give…

Meta is straight evil. It undermines the institutions of democracy and it negatively impacts its users mental health, all in service of selling your data to advertisers so they can better goad unnecessary consumption. If I learn you work at Meta, I will judge you as at best lacking a moral compass and treat you appropriately. Apple has problems, but is a lot closer to morally neutral. Ditto for Netflix. Amazon has ho…

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Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

#186

I have a serious question to anyone working at Meta and reading this: HOW can you still work at this company!? Why don't you quit this very toxic company, and start working at another place or even on your own? I genuinely don't understand... Let just Meta die!

Money. Even I would put up with this if they paid me enough.

I'd down vote this if I could.

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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I think the keyword is “can”. It is allowed, contrary to eg the EU, where this is not allowed.

It is allowed under certain circumstances.

I am pretty sure there would have to be a court order, i.e. a severe violation would have to have good ground to be suspected.

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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This sounds like the "everything you create in your own time is company property since we cannot distinguish if what you do in your own time isn't company related" clause in some contracts. Under no circumstance is it actable where I live, but it can sure scare the hell out of people and presents a line of thought. Yes, some companies think they can own copyright on the things you write at home.

If my contract says that I must be available immediately at any time, do I have ANY personal time? Or is all of my time their time too?

Absolutely. Your personal time is that time which, in retrospect, the company didn't need you for. It's strictly a backward-looking definition.

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

#189

I have a serious question to anyone working at Meta and reading this: HOW can you still work at this company!? Why don't you quit this very toxic company, and start working at another place or even on your own? I genuinely don't understand... Let just Meta die!

There are tons of good reasons to work for Meta. You can work on interesting projects, build your resume and network, work on interesting engineering problems, learn from other people, and of course, they pay very well. People do need to support their family, secure their retirement and so on... Is it perfect? certainly not. Is the company toxic? where do you draw the line? how much are you willing to compromise give…

Hey, at least you're open and honest about being okay with contributing to such a global net negative as long as you get something out of it.

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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This is something that genuinely runs the gamut across different companies—plenty don't even know the serial numbers of company-owned machines, never mind which devices individuals have, while others do effectively have live feeds of every employee's screen available to managers at all times. In between you have many businesses that manage their devices but only insofar as to enforce some basic protection and reserve…

Yeah, many companies don't want the liability issues. Like what happens if I open my bank account on my work computer? You could argue I can expect someone to be watching but I have no warning that someone is? Here in the EU that would probably be an easy lawsuit.

Can’t speak for the EU, but the companies I’ve worked for in the US explicitly state what they do not track in their privacy/use policy when giving out laptops/phones/tablets.

E.g. their anti-virus or firewall system may ignore URLs related to banking, medical, or political affiliation and chose not to log or decrypt that traffic

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