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Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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Post by elevation »

sollewitt wrote: post #80
everdrive wrote: post #17

I don't work for Meta, but how many more years do I need to work in tech? I'm in my 40s and my kids are young. I've already set up 529s for them, and am paying for some expensive home upgrades. Maybe when that is finished and I've built up a buffer I can switch industries for the last 5-10 years of my working life. Curious if anyone here has any similar plans.

I think we need to unionize, across companies. We need to be able to block stuff like this, and to be able to demand that you can’t lay off someone to replace them with AI (bringing US workers rights up to the bar set by China). We also need to be able to hold our leadership to some kind of code of ethics. I don’t want to work for a company that makes kill bots, or can renege on climate pledges.

> can’t lay off someone to replace them with AI

This measure would either be toothless or it would make it impossible for the most toxic (non-criminal) team members to be fired.

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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Post by jjulius »

jryan49 wrote: post #23

Could anything be more ironic, the employees that work to track every person in the world are now being tracked themselves :)

I'm trying to have sympathy for those who work there and are opposed to this, but the irony is so thick that it's a struggle.

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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Post by Viliam1234 »

veber-alex wrote: post #87
p0w3n3d wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't visiting hacker news count as personal growth? Or am I supposed to grow professionally outside the work?

Yep. One time my manager did a hour long lecture for our team on how personal growth is important and that we all should expand our horizons and learn new stuff. When I tried to reserve 2 hours A WEEK for studying tasks I got push back that I should do it on my own time. It was a complete joke.

I wonder what happens when you have kids and you can no longer spend your free time to keep learning new things that your company wants you to know.

(Just kidding, I know what happens... they will fire you and hire someone who doesn't have kids.)

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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Post by deadbabe »

everdrive wrote: post #17

I don't work for Meta, but how many more years do I need to work in tech? I'm in my 40s and my kids are young. I've already set up 529s for them, and am paying for some expensive home upgrades. Maybe when that is finished and I've built up a buffer I can switch industries for the last 5-10 years of my working life. Curious if anyone here has any similar plans.

If I can get a few more good years in the stock market and save and invest as much as possible I could probably be done in 5 years and not have to work anymore or just work till I’m fired.

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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Post by freakynit »

sollewitt wrote: post #80
everdrive wrote: post #17

I don't work for Meta, but how many more years do I need to work in tech? I'm in my 40s and my kids are young. I've already set up 529s for them, and am paying for some expensive home upgrades. Maybe when that is finished and I've built up a buffer I can switch industries for the last 5-10 years of my working life. Curious if anyone here has any similar plans.

I think we need to unionize, across companies. We need to be able to block stuff like this, and to be able to demand that you can’t lay off someone to replace them with AI (bringing US workers rights up to the bar set by China). We also need to be able to hold our leadership to some kind of code of ethics. I don’t want to work for a company that makes kill bots, or can renege on climate pledges.

The best way to unionize is to follow what Mahatma Gandhi did: Non-cooperation movement.

It consists of two broad strategies:

1. Consumer Non-Cooperation (Boycott): Boycott of stuff sold, or given by these companies, irrespective of how attractive it is.

2. The Constructive Program (Self-Reliance): Building and supporting alternatives, even if they cost you a little bit more.

All it needs is little self-discipline and a very very tiny bit of sacrifice on daily basis.

https://www.nextias.com/blog/non-cooperation-movement/

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Post by stymaar »

Viliam1234 wrote: post #153
veber-alex wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. One time my manager did a hour long lecture for our team on how personal growth is important and that we all should expand our horizons and learn new stuff. When I tried to reserve 2 hours A WEEK for studying tasks I got push back that I should do it on my own time. It was a complete joke.

I wonder what happens when you have kids and you can no longer spend your free time to keep learning new things that your company wants you to know. (Just kidding, I know what happens... they will fire you and hire someone who doesn't have kids.)

> (Just kidding, I know what happens... they will fire you and hire someone who doesn't have kids.)

And then the boss will blame young people for collapsing the demography and endangering the country.

Re: Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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Post by xnorswap »

new_account_104 wrote: post #74
xnorswap wrote: post #44

I hate it when companies use this kind of trick to get around legislation or privacy concerns. "Employees are able to turn off tracking". Sure, but there is a power imbalance, and employees will come to understand ( although never stated in any handbook ) that the rate at which they disable it will be taken into account in performance reviews. Just like "unlimited PTO" is not a benefit, because employees self-regulat…

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Often this kind of thing is put in as a relief valve to stop people demanding legislation. They can push back by pointing to this kind of measure, despite knowing in practice that employees aren't really free to use it.

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Post by ramgine »

Viliam1234 wrote: post #153
veber-alex wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. One time my manager did a hour long lecture for our team on how personal growth is important and that we all should expand our horizons and learn new stuff. When I tried to reserve 2 hours A WEEK for studying tasks I got push back that I should do it on my own time. It was a complete joke.

I wonder what happens when you have kids and you can no longer spend your free time to keep learning new things that your company wants you to know. (Just kidding, I know what happens... they will fire you and hire someone who doesn't have kids.)

You either fall behind/into a rut, or like you said, get let go. It’s scary
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