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Gmail and Drive - a new way to send files

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Re: Gmail and Drive - a new way to send files

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This is how email could work too. The sender would host it (by himself or in cloud) and the recipients go fetch it when they want to read it. Updates and comment threads all collect into the same place. No spam either since nobody would be pushing tens of megabytes of messages to your inbox.

Re: Gmail and Drive - a new way to send files

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I've been paying for Google Drive for several months because I really, really want it to work, but it's actually kinda useless as it causes constant instability and 120%+ CPU load on my 2012 Macbook Pro. This means that I frequently close the application down, so it's not actually covering me and if I lost my computer, the most recent files probably wouldn't be covered. There's been an open issue about this in the support forums for months and there's no news on when they're going to fix it...

Re: Gmail and Drive - a new way to send files

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> Have you ever tried to attach a file to an email only to find out it's too large to send? Yeah! Some jerk who runs my MTA set the size of acceptable attachments really low! I wonder who did that... $ host -t mx mydomain.com mydomain.com mail is handled by 0 aspmx.l.google.com. Oh... I see.

Attachment size limits aren't there just to fuck with you. Sending large files around between web clients is okay, but if you send a large file to an outlook user they're going to have to sit there waiting for it to download before the rest of their email comes in. And then it's going to make their PST file exceed the maximum PST file size, which in a poorly managed system (i.e. most personal computers) is going to c…

And the users get really mad at Exchange and Outlook, and they complain to their administrators, and they switch to Google Apps.

Re: Gmail and Drive - a new way to send files

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> Have you ever tried to attach a file to an email only to find out it's too large to send? Yeah! Some jerk who runs my MTA set the size of acceptable attachments really low! I wonder who did that... $ host -t mx mydomain.com mydomain.com mail is handled by 0 aspmx.l.google.com. Oh... I see.

Attachment size limits aren't there just to fuck with you. Sending large files around between web clients is okay, but if you send a large file to an outlook user they're going to have to sit there waiting for it to download before the rest of their email comes in. And then it's going to make their PST file exceed the maximum PST file size, which in a poorly managed system (i.e. most personal computers) is going to c…

Oh sure. However, it also puts a lot of load / strain on servers that Google doesn't want to run (SMTP, IMAP, etc). The way the post is written makes it sound like Google has figured out how to tame some natural force to allow us to have big e-mail attachments, while all along the limit was set by Google itself. I really don't think that Google cares about Outlook users (why should they).

Somewhat unrelated, I think that Google is beginning to try and pressure people to stop using SMTP and IMAP. I've long used Mail.app, mutt, or Thunderbird to use mail hosted by Google, almost entirely because the GMail client doesn't support any kind of message encryption or authentication. Recently, I have been receiving a lot of "quota exceeded" messages during routine interactions with the IMAP servers. I suspect that Google is in the process of gradually lowering the allowed quotas for IMAP usage in an attempt to get people to use the web UI, Android, or cros ...

Re: Gmail and Drive - a new way to send files

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Totally off topic but blogspot is just awful. Why does everything have to be a complicated buggy JavaScript app? There's nothing wrong with serving up good ol HTML pages, especially for simple text and images content like a blog.

Re: Gmail and Drive - a new way to send files

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> Have you ever tried to attach a file to an email only to find out it's too large to send? Yeah! Some jerk who runs my MTA set the size of acceptable attachments really low! I wonder who did that... $ host -t mx mydomain.com mydomain.com mail is handled by 0 aspmx.l.google.com. Oh... I see.

Attachment size limits aren't there just to fuck with you. Sending large files around between web clients is okay, but if you send a large file to an outlook user they're going to have to sit there waiting for it to download before the rest of their email comes in. And then it's going to make their PST file exceed the maximum PST file size, which in a poorly managed system (i.e. most personal computers) is going to c…

Thanks for explaining this, it sounds obvious now but I never understood why attachment size was limited.

Re: Gmail and Drive - a new way to send files

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I've been paying for Google Drive for several months because I really, really want it to work, but it's actually kinda useless as it causes constant instability and 120%+ CPU load on my 2012 Macbook Pro. This means that I frequently close the application down, so it's not actually covering me and if I lost my computer, the most recent files probably wouldn't be covered. There's been an open issue about this in the su…

I switched to Arq with Glacier as my "House Burns Down" backup, as I already backup to a Time Machine external drive at home. I'm very happy with it, but of course, I've never tried to get the data back yet.

Re: Gmail and Drive - a new way to send files

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A welcome feature, but we can't ignore the paradigm shift's tiny repercussion: once the sender deletes the file, the receiver will no longer be able to access it (assuming they've lost, deleted, or not yet downloaded their own copy). Lately I've used shared Dropbox folder links for larger attachments, but the same problem seems to persist with any hosted solution. A solution that pleases both the sender having control over their files and the receiver having long-term access is tough to imagine.

Re: Gmail and Drive - a new way to send files

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post #11

This is how email could work too. The sender would host it (by himself or in cloud) and the recipients go fetch it when they want to read it. Updates and comment threads all collect into the same place. No spam either since nobody would be pushing tens of megabytes of messages to your inbox.

Well, you could always just paste a good old URL.

Re: Gmail and Drive - a new way to send files

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Totally off topic but blogspot is just awful. Why does everything have to be a complicated buggy JavaScript app? There's nothing wrong with serving up good ol HTML pages, especially for simple text and images content like a blog.

I actually really like it. What don't you like about it?
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