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Post by mesrik »

lostlogin wrote: post #231
mesrik wrote: post #219

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How so, not last a decade? I had AEG Lavamat 1055 about 35 years (from 1982), worked well without hitch. It was quite small, top loading model etc. Fast spin-dry w/ variomatic (shaking also while spinning). Laundry out of it was quite dry already. Then 2017 building plumbing had to be redone and gave reason to remake bathroom completely and replacing old equipment. I would have bought Miele model but it didn't fit re…

> How so, not last a decade? Maybe it’s me then. We just don’t get that long out of them. We have tried Fisher and Paykel and Samsung. Never had more than and year warranty either. They do run at least once a day often more, but that’s not enough to explain it.

I understand that while small kids or baby then there is lot of laundry. But I've heard some people wash same fav clothes every day just to be able to use them fresh clean every day.

Gosh, but there are other ways to solve that issue like having bit more of fav clothes, so that you dont' have to wash same cloth every day but instead was a bunch of them end of week. Need white shirt every day at work, buy at least 10 of them, use one each day, wash & iron weekend, put on pile1 and use from pile2 next week rotating for even use and to have some redundancy, then pile1 week and so on. Get more trousers etc. whatever you need. This is what I did when had job where dress code told what to wear in office.

And kids, buy them more fav clothes too if it otherwise becomes fight what they want to wear daily.

But each to their own. Above is just my view and how I learned when I was kid looking my parents, and how I've done also.

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Post by tw1984 »

slaw wrote: post #268
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EU has ASML, Airbus and their suppliers left.

the key component of ASML is invented and manufactured by the US, that is how the US can force ASML not to export its EUV machine to China. it is an American tech.

Airbus is not the result of high tech manufacturing, it is the result of setting up regulations to stop others to join the competition. The entire EU is not capable of building any 5th gen fighter jet on its own, that is the best proof that its aerospace industry is about 20 years behind China's, same as the space industry.

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Post by benj111 »

hvb2 wrote: post #252
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Be thankful you didn't buy Beko. I had a horrible uphill battle trying to get them to honour a 2 year warranty in Ireland after about a years usage. After they finally engaged with the warranty, they had someone come out to 'fix' it once every couple weeks until I gave up and just bought a different brand washer/dryer. I'm now sworn off Beko, and will happily tell everyone I can about my terrible service :)

That's also a bit 'you get what you pay for'? Especially with large electronics/cars typically it pays off to go for the more expensive ones. Miele here as well and well past a decade And there are still parts too

Yes. But. There's many companies that build up a reputation then cash in on that reputation. Eg Mercedes in the 90s. So you could end up paying more for cheap rubbish.

It would be nice if the EU or someone introduced an energy star type system for reliability and repairability so that consumers could have some kind of idea what the quality is likely to be.

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Post by UltraSane »

tw1984 wrote: post #258
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The most infamous example of this is hip implants made in China that had to be recalled due to being made wrong. This is also why Chinese structural steel is rarely used in North America and Europe.

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I didn't say where the steel the US and EU uses comes from, just that they don't use Chinese steel. So this is a very bad trolling attempt. You also use the word "woke" like the Nazis used the word "Jewish"

Re: CT scans of BYD car parts

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Post by Toutouxc »

hvb2 wrote: post #143
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I have a Chinese EV too, an MG4 built by SAIC. It’s a really cheap car, significantly cheaper than its non-Chinese counterparts like the VW ID.3 or (roughly) a Hyundai Kona. The factory rust protection was maybe a bit on the lighter side, but everything else on it looks completely normal. The drivetrain is simple (no heat exchange mechanism between battery coolant and motor coolant, a slightly whiny motor), but also…

Cars only show if they're well made after like a decade? These are not washing machines or something. Sadly that's also why it's hard to buy a new car, you only know what's a quality car years down the line. First impression matters though.

The point is that you can't tell anymore just by looking underneath and counting the wtfs.

I have a friend who's a big Honda fan, amateur racer, a true "petrolhead" but with an intact brain. Runs his own shop. Naturally there was a barrage of jokes when I rolled up in my new Chinese EV, but then we put it up on a lift and there wasn't really much to joke about. The platform looks boring and mature. Things are where you'd expect them, they're the right size and shape, you can tell why they're there.

Obviously, the motor/reducer bearings in my car may fail in a few years (like in the Kona Electric or Škoda Enyaq) or the charging circuitry may fail (like the ICCU in the Ioniq 5) but then we're already comparing it against legacy manufacturers, and that's a pretty good position to be in.

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Post by speleding »

tw1984 wrote: post #272
slaw wrote: post #268

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EU has ASML, Airbus and their suppliers left.

the key component of ASML is invented and manufactured by the US, that is how the US can force ASML not to export its EUV machine to China. it is an American tech. Airbus is not the result of high tech manufacturing, it is the result of setting up regulations to stop others to join the competition. The entire EU is not capable of building any 5th gen fighter jet on its own, that is the best proof that its aerospace i…

The US-made Ultra UV light source is important, but there is quite a bit more than that to a $380 million lithography machine. (Otherwise someone would have created a competitor by now.)

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Post by dangus »

halapro wrote: post #180
yakbarber wrote: post #72

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Totally agree, this protectionism killed the Australian car industry because eventually you just can’t compete.

Protectionism by who? By definition protectionism cannot kill your own country's car industry.

I’m not sure why you think protectionism (by the local government) can’t kill an industry. It happened to American steel as well: the American steel industry was “protected” while foreign steel companies innovated their production processes.

The timeline goes like this:

1. Government gets pressured by industry to protect domestic industry from outside competition

2. Domestic industry stagnates as it has no reason to make competitive products

3. Time passes, quality/value gulf becomes so large that it becomes impossible to catch up to competition. It becomes impossible to export your goods and even domestic customers look elsewhere.

If the USA dropped tariffs and bans against Chinese car companies, American car companies would need to improve rapidly to survive. Instead, they’re selling us $50,000 decade old dinosaur designs like the Chrysler Pacifica.

This literally already happened to them with Japanese cars. And let me tell you, you don’t want to drive a Chevrolet from before Honda and Toyota sold cars in the United States.

Not protectionism related, but look at the MacBook Neo competitors shown off by Dell and HP at Computex. Competition drives innovation and cost reduction for consumers. Apple forced HP and Dell to make an affordable aluminum chassis computer for the masses and consumers are the winner in the situation.

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Post by jpleyden98 »

fooo1882992 wrote: post #215
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I'd rather own Chinese everything over American. Everything America makes is slop and corners are cut for profits so the owners of companies can own their third home and maybe a yacht. The truth is Chinese engineering quality exceeds the West in almost every domain at this point. I'd move there given the opportunity, the business owners of America are willing to poison and put the lives of their fellow citizens at ri…

Imagine glazing the country where a dozen companies were caught mixing melamine into baby formula, hospitalizing 50,000 and killing 6. This happened in 2008 by the way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

I disagree with 'glazing' China but the USA really isn't much better

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis

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Post by therealpygon »

piltdownman wrote: post #247
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> The reason most people still believe that Chinese-made stuff is poor quality is because they will do what they are told and they are usually told “make this as cheap as possible” by whoever is paying the bills. I’m reminded of all the dismissals people made about the skill levels of Indian software developers when the explanation was that the more skilled ones knew they could do better than the MBAs were offering t…

Also because of the appalling track record of QA/QC, and subsequent cover-ups, at every level of government and enterprise from regional to national. In the 2008 milk Scandal, for example, the offending company Sanlu were aware of infants becoming sick December 2007, but refused to test until June 2008. Shijiazhuang city governance failed to report the contamination to provincial and state authorities September 2008…

Very true, though it isn’t like we need to look very far to find similar instances of government and media collusion to control stories, laws passed to protect companies from liability for direct causally linked chemical dumping known to induce tumors, cancer, neurological diseases and other things, so on and so forth.

Every country seems willing to trade the lives or livelihood of citizens, much less people of other countries, to ensure their status quo. Some just pay more lip service to “rights” they will violate at the drop of a hat when push comes to shove.

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