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Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by amelius »

ozim wrote: post #65
jdw64 wrote: post #7

I also want to communicate with someone and have programming conversations. There's no one around me to talk about programming with. I'm the only programmer around. Aside from AI and books, I sometimes want to talk with a real person.

For me problem is that talking with developers most of the time is more annoying than it is worth. Being one-upped all the time, having devs nag about tiny irrelevant flaws just to show who is smarter. Adding just one more sentence to keep upper hand and trying to „make better” when good wasn’t done yet. When I was younger I also had my fair share of those flaws.

> For me problem is that talking with developers most of the time is more annoying than it is worth.

Then why are you on HN? ;)

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by lelanthran »

austin-cheney wrote: post #58

Quite the gap. The legends the article talks about are legends because they either started a project that blew up in popularity and/or solved a demanded problem with original code. For most people writing software for a living that is gone. Its been gone since I started writing software 20 years ago. The goal post has moved. Its no longer about solving any problem. Its about hiring. The distinction is massive. Most o…

In a previous post I lamented that my I should no longer call myself a software developer - after all, I write my own code!

Maybe there should be a distinction between software creators and programmers.

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by xtiansimon »

austin-cheney wrote: post #58

Quite the gap. The legends the article talks about are legends because they either started a project that blew up in popularity and/or solved a demanded problem with original code. For most people writing software for a living that is gone. Its been gone since I started writing software 20 years ago. The goal post has moved. Its no longer about solving any problem. Its about hiring. The distinction is massive. Most o…

> “… will never encounter an important problem to solve or write original code.”

I’m sure you’re right. Though, let me add, there are a lot of minuscule problems in the small business space. Not fame and fortune level, but gratifying nevertheless.

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by brookst »

lelanthran wrote: post #73
austin-cheney wrote: post #58

Quite the gap. The legends the article talks about are legends because they either started a project that blew up in popularity and/or solved a demanded problem with original code. For most people writing software for a living that is gone. Its been gone since I started writing software 20 years ago. The goal post has moved. Its no longer about solving any problem. Its about hiring. The distinction is massive. Most o…

In a previous post I lamented that my I should no longer call myself a software developer - after all, I write my own code! Maybe there should be a distinction between software creators and programmers.

In the same way there’s a distinction between writers and typists, and you really don’t hear anything about typists these days.

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by brookst »

amelius wrote: post #64
laughing_man wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As my brother said once with exasperation: "I got into this business to write code, and now I'm just an integrator."

integrator -> plumber

If you choose that direction, yes. But you can also choose integrator -> CPO.

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by whack »

Imagine being Andrew Tridgell and watching your inbox blow up today with thousands of emails from complete strangers, all just saying hi and wanting to casually chat with you. He's probably scratching his head right now and wondering what is going on

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by rramadass »

ozim wrote: post #65
jdw64 wrote: post #7

I also want to communicate with someone and have programming conversations. There's no one around me to talk about programming with. I'm the only programmer around. Aside from AI and books, I sometimes want to talk with a real person.

For me problem is that talking with developers most of the time is more annoying than it is worth. Being one-upped all the time, having devs nag about tiny irrelevant flaws just to show who is smarter. Adding just one more sentence to keep upper hand and trying to „make better” when good wasn’t done yet. When I was younger I also had my fair share of those flaws.

Ha, Ha, Very true though we don't like to admit it to ourselves.

HN is full of these types (myself included when something really triggers me). The amount of trivialities/nitpicking/arguing-for-the-sake-of-arguing going on here is enough to try anybody's patience. I think if i were to discuss things face-to-face with some of the people here it may most probably end in screaming/yelling and fisticuffs ;-)

It is a fundamental Human behavioural trait (i.e. the need to assert dominance through any means) that needs careful regulation in our communications.

I try to deal with these people the Sherlock Holmes way ;-)

"It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of light. Some people without possessing genius have a remarkable power of stimulating it ...

When I said that you stimulated me I meant, to be frank, that in noting your fallacies I was occasionally guided towards the truth.".

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by rramadass »

amelius wrote: post #71
ozim wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me problem is that talking with developers most of the time is more annoying than it is worth. Being one-upped all the time, having devs nag about tiny irrelevant flaws just to show who is smarter. Adding just one more sentence to keep upper hand and trying to „make better” when good wasn’t done yet. When I was younger I also had my fair share of those flaws.

> For me problem is that talking with developers most of the time is more annoying than it is worth. Then why are you on HN? ;)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48382972

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by CuriouslyC »

It's not a great time to be a programmer, it's a great time to be a marketer that can program passably. While 10x programmers are getting ignored on social media, you can use your marketing skills to hype your half baked project into a few thousand GitHub stars, then into investment from a VC.

The exception is game programmers. With AI/engines, making games has never been easier, Steam takes a lot of the guesswork out of packaging/release, and the moat in games is taste/refinement which is very AI resistant.

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