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Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by wouldbecouldbe »

jdw64 wrote: post #16
wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most places there are software meetups, in my area there are many at meetup.com. I once started one myself, that later got taken over and is still quite big. Actually a lot of fun, and at the time we would even get sponsoring offers quite quickly.

I don't have that kind of gathering on side. There are no programming meetups. It's an industrial area. My job mostly involves programming equipment operation using WinForm and WPF. I sometimes wish there were such meetups too. Around here, it's all factories

yeah you can just start your own! meetup (and if you have fb groups) have a good chance to bring in lots of people.

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by jdw64 »

austin-cheney wrote: post #58

Quite the gap. The legends the article talks about are legends because they either started a project that blew up in popularity and/or solved a demanded problem with original code. For most people writing software for a living that is gone. Its been gone since I started writing software 20 years ago. The goal post has moved. Its no longer about solving any problem. Its about hiring. The distinction is massive. Most o…

I agree with you. There's a saying in Korea and East Asia: 'Open source is a moat.' This might sound difficult, but it means that if you're trying to sell a product, its quality or UX/UI basically needs to be better than what's already publicly available in open source — and that's not easy.

As the era becomes increasingly advanced, the cognitive cost of making a single project public keeps rising. But if you try to use an LLM to share or assist, there are many people who say LLMs are bad.

It's a difficult problem

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by suncemoje »

austin-cheney wrote: post #58

Quite the gap. The legends the article talks about are legends because they either started a project that blew up in popularity and/or solved a demanded problem with original code. For most people writing software for a living that is gone. Its been gone since I started writing software 20 years ago. The goal post has moved. Its no longer about solving any problem. Its about hiring. The distinction is massive. Most o…

Reminds me of when Jensen Huang recently compared Linux to OpenClaw and showed this ridiculous GitHub star comparison. To me these projects are incomparable.

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by amelius »

laughing_man wrote: post #60
austin-cheney wrote: post #58

Quite the gap. The legends the article talks about are legends because they either started a project that blew up in popularity and/or solved a demanded problem with original code. For most people writing software for a living that is gone. Its been gone since I started writing software 20 years ago. The goal post has moved. Its no longer about solving any problem. Its about hiring. The distinction is massive. Most o…

As my brother said once with exasperation: "I got into this business to write code, and now I'm just an integrator."

integrator -> plumber

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by ozim »

jdw64 wrote: post #7

I also want to communicate with someone and have programming conversations. There's no one around me to talk about programming with. I'm the only programmer around. Aside from AI and books, I sometimes want to talk with a real person.

For me problem is that talking with developers most of the time is more annoying than it is worth.

Being one-upped all the time, having devs nag about tiny irrelevant flaws just to show who is smarter. Adding just one more sentence to keep upper hand and trying to „make better” when good wasn’t done yet.

When I was younger I also had my fair share of those flaws.

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by jdw64 »

ozim wrote: post #65
jdw64 wrote: post #7

I also want to communicate with someone and have programming conversations. There's no one around me to talk about programming with. I'm the only programmer around. Aside from AI and books, I sometimes want to talk with a real person.

For me problem is that talking with developers most of the time is more annoying than it is worth. Being one-upped all the time, having devs nag about tiny irrelevant flaws just to show who is smarter. Adding just one more sentence to keep upper hand and trying to „make better” when good wasn’t done yet. When I was younger I also had my fair share of those flaws.

Actually, I think all professional fields are similar. But even so, sometimes I still miss having people around

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by gorjusborg »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #49
wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most places there are software meetups, in my area there are many at meetup.com. I once started one myself, that later got taken over and is still quite big. Actually a lot of fun, and at the time we would even get sponsoring offers quite quickly.

We have them around here. I stopped going, because the “circle of avoidance” around me makes me self-conscious. The ageism in New York, is even worse than in Silicon Valley.

What do you mean by circle of avoidance?

Re: It is an amazing time for programmers

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Post by creamyhorror »

8-prime wrote: post #10
jdw64 wrote: post #7

I also want to communicate with someone and have programming conversations. There's no one around me to talk about programming with. I'm the only programmer around. Aside from AI and books, I sometimes want to talk with a real person.

I found great enjoyment from https://late.sh/ . I'm not as active as I would like to be but the small community is still active enought that there is basically always someone around to chat with.

This is amazing, a true gem. I need to get it set up.
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