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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by nexus7556 »

tuananh wrote: post #421
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

my only problem with fastmail is their spam filtering is so bad. they mistake legit emails quite often

I agree. Their spam filtering is absolute trash. I get 3-4 spam messages a day in my inbox. I file support tickets for it and they always tell me there is nothing they can do.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by natnatenathan »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

I just have to add on about how great Fastmail is. They are completely focused on having a stable product, that is relatively simple and cheap. They are not ambitious as a company at all, in the best possible way. They haven't tried to build an office suite. They don't upsell me on any new features. They just deliver a solid, basic product that has been consistently good for more than a decade now. I wish more software and services were like this, I'm tired of everyone hiring an MBA and following the exact same "maximization" business model.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by nexus7556 »

wodenokoto wrote: post #464
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

I was quite surprised how much better search and spam filters are on fastmail. Both things I did not believe a small company could do better than Google, but I think they did. I also find the interface better. I was also expecting Google to have resources for optimizing details, that a small company wouldn't get around to. Fastmail also lets you e-mail a real person for help and they usually take it very seriously -…

Are you kidding me about the spam? I have 3-4 spam emails land in my inbox every day on Fastmail. It's horrendous.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by computomatic »

ipaddr wrote: post #440
Slow_Hand wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? Cause that is the single most useful feature offered by Gmail that I have yet to find elsewhere. I'm not talking about manually tagging, setting up, and filtering all incoming email before my inbox can self-organize. I mean automatically. Only show me the true primary items in my inbox from the jump. Everything else can wait…

Interesting to see people have such strong faith in Google's ability to filter. My experience is email from addresses marked safe ends up in the spam category. Wish you luck.

Ironically my experience with Fastmail was that every email ended up in spam. This included emails from myself, others from my own gmail, and even replies from people I'd emailed first. It was literally sending 100% of emails to spam. The spam filter setting was set to the most basic level, nothing aggressive, so I was forced to disable spam filtering completely. Luckily it was a new email so spam hasn't been an issue but that has slowly been changing.

I still love fastmail though. Top choice. But they do have quirks to work out even this many years in.

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Post by notpushkin »

locknitpicker wrote: post #459
vachina wrote: post #454

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Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email.

> Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email. Because the UX of most email clients is extremely bad when compared with the webui of these email providers.

Try Mailspring. I’m a huge fan: https://github.com/Foundry376/Mailspring

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by rimliu »

nexus7556 wrote: post #473
wodenokoto wrote: post #464

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was quite surprised how much better search and spam filters are on fastmail. Both things I did not believe a small company could do better than Google, but I think they did. I also find the interface better. I was also expecting Google to have resources for optimizing details, that a small company wouldn't get around to. Fastmail also lets you e-mail a real person for help and they usually take it very seriously -…

Are you kidding me about the spam? I have 3-4 spam emails land in my inbox every day on Fastmail. It's horrendous.

I have more than that on gmail and none in Fastmail. My gmail account is way more over the place than my FMs though.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by bunnie »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

Just another +1 for fastmail, long time user, really pleased with the service. They do one thing and they do it well, and they charge a fair price for the value delivered.

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Post by dajonker »

> Some of these features can be turned off. Others can’t. Or if they can, it means also turning off useful long-standing features like automatic thread categorization.

This, I absolutely hate it. And like the author said, it must be intentional, so that someone at Google can show the usage numbers and get a promotion.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by eschatology »

pickleRick243 wrote: post #399
phyzome wrote: post #335

I can heartily recommend going into your Google settings and disabling the global "smart features" option. It removes a huge amount of crap all at once. For GMail, go to Settings -> General ( https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#settings/general ) and scroll down to "Smart features" and disable that. Then go to the next option, "Google Workspace smart features" and disable them across your entire workspace with 1 or 2 m…

I found the blog post a bit annoying because it was clearly trying to win internet points rather than actually solve a problem. What you wrote above would have resolved the issue in a couple of minutes, faster than moving over to another email provider. I found all the Gemini integration into consumer products super annoying as well and disabled/unpinned all of it months ago the day I noticed it and thought "wth is t…

Did you read it?

The author addressed this; they were unable to disable it completely.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by vishnugupta »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

+1 to Fastmail. Been their happy customer for 5+ years.
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