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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by wholinator2 »

kraquepype wrote: post #37
coldpie wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know everyone's tired of hearing this, but this doesn't happen on Linux. I know I know, it's different and a little janky here and there and maybe you have to find a replacement for one or two pieces of software. But like, you don't actually have to put up with this. There is a better way.

I recently built 2 mini PCs for my kids to play games on, and went with Bazzite. It was really surprising how put together it all is. The steam integration is seamless and it can play a ton of stuff even on an older NUC w/out a GPU. It was the first time I can say that installing a linux OS was easier and friendlier than Windows.

It's only getting easier and friendlier comparatively. Recently i bought a new computer and installing an external drive and putting kde linux on it was easier than fighting my way through the windows telemetry gauntlet, the setting, and all the bloat. Modern windows disgusts me continuously in new ways

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Post by minraws »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #125
minraws wrote: post #92

Please Google let me buy my email and move it to my own service without any restrictions and I will be thankful. I am now in too deep to move away, from my govt licenses to banks to everything else. Switching away from Gmail isn't possible for me, but I will keep trying, I won't give up but hopefully I would never have to realize how big a mistake this was. I feel like I might end up on the streets if gmail goes away…

Much like planting a tree, the ideal time to use your own domain for email was many years ago, but the next best time to do it is today. Do it! minraws.com (if that means anything to you) is available, you could be firstname@minraws.com as well as your @gmail.com before the sun goes down. Personally, I'd set it up to feed into a new mailbox with Protonmail, but if you like you can just have it forward to the familiar…

Already have one but moving old services especially banks, and licenses and very old accounts and so on is such a PITA. I had to fill a dozen forms to move one of my govt accounts to my new email. This is not fun..

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by aquariusDue »

bigfishrunning wrote: post #110
soperj wrote: post #96

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what do you use as your client?

I'm not the poster you're replying to, but i did the same thing and use Purelymail (and their web interface, which i think is open-source) it's a very cheap no-nonsense service, i recommend it

Over the years I've recommended Migadu and still do. Affordable and reliable with usage based pricing.

As for the email client I personally prefer Thunderbird on PC and FairEmail on Android.

https://migadu.com/

https://email.faircode.eu/

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by pkilgore »

munk-a wrote: post #220
shevy-java wrote: post #212

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Why do people have to go to this, to turn off the AI slop?

Because AI is the next hot thing and it would be impossible to ship our product without AI features available... but for some reason users don't tend to opt into our new AI features that I staked my career on... Am I so out of touch? No, it's the users that are wrong. Opt them in by default and our usage will skyrocket!

Google+ says hello!

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by chuckadams »

elictronic wrote: post #139
bossyTeacher wrote: post #41

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It's hilarious seeing people complain about Microsoft when a free alternative exists. Humans are really curious creatures.

Up until very recently gaming is the only thing keeping my l and millions of others main pc from being Linux or Mac. I dual booted in the past but was annoyed. With all the work steam has put in I’m personally about 6 months out from just dumping Microsoft on all my personal products. It’s impressive they have dropped the ball so hard that it’s causing a complete rethink for so many users like myself. Bullet >> golde…

I caught myself just recently saying that I only keep my Linux box around to play games. Steam is more painless on Linux now than on Windows.

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Post by SpaceNoodled »

setopt wrote: post #214
sebmellen wrote: post #169

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The most frustrating thing to me is to receive a 5-paragraph-plus email that was clearly written with some AI that filled in the email with vapid and useless talking points, like "Let me know if you need any other blah blah blah; While there is clearly a need for system improvement, we are working hard to address the underlying and fundamental issue; This is a lesson that it's not just a feature, it's a critical path…

> Then there’s probably some underlying belief that more volume shows more effort Hopefully, LLMs will kill that attitude in the long run

They're already making it worse ...

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by saint_yossarian »

dyauspitr wrote: post #85

What I fucking hate more than anything else is this new nonsense about me approaching the 15 GB limit and then when I want to clean things up, it has zero tools that make any sense. Like just let me sort all of my messages with the largest sized messages on top. Instead it gives me some random selection of messages of varying sizes, most less than 1 MB. You cannot sort it in anyway. Horrible. Horrible I am so angry.…

You can use the advanced search to find mails larger than X.

Also if you're not aware, Google Photos lets you downscale photos and videos so they don't count towards your quota at all. See "Recover storage" on https://photos.google.com/quotamanagement

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by jrowen »

why_at wrote: post #151

I can appreciate LLMs for some use cases, but writing emails for the user is the one that really baffles me. It's one thing if you don't speak English well and could use some help making yourself understood, but the amount of native speakers using this is so strange to me. How does this help you? If you can write to the LLM telling it what kind of email to write, you might as well just write the email.

It's insecurity. They worry they might be saying something dumb and the LLM gives them assurance that it sounds "better" and "more professional."

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by ikrenji »

munk-a wrote: post #210
sebmellen wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most frustrating thing to me is to receive a 5-paragraph-plus email that was clearly written with some AI that filled in the email with vapid and useless talking points, like "Let me know if you need any other blah blah blah; While there is clearly a need for system improvement, we are working hard to address the underlying and fundamental issue; This is a lesson that it's not just a feature, it's a critical path…

Specifically, lets imagine LLMs as compilers - you're passing your prompt through to get some pretty language at the end. Don't send me your compiled code, send me your prompt. Let it be rude, if the wording is awkward I guarantee I can understand it just as well as an LLM, ignore the fact that my daughter just graduated and offering hallucinated platitudes. Send me the actual question, don't make me try and decompil…

Just because you yourself are OK with being talked to rudely, doesn't mean others are. In fact I'd wager most aren't consciously or unconsciously...
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