> so I left to where?
Fastmail. It’s covered at the bottom of the post.
Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#82Thinking that Gmail thinks anything about you is giving them too much credit. The only reason for any of this is the desperation to juice their AI usage metrics.
Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple? The company that has built its entire brand and product lines around "we know what's best for you and if you don't like the way we've done it, you're wrong"?
Yes. We expect the company that prides itself on having taste to avoid doing tasteless things.
The tastelessness has been creeping in
Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#84What surprises me most about gmail and AI is that they seem really quite bad at filtering out obvious spam. I get so many messages from people I have never heard from, on relatively new domains, with endings like "if this isn't relevant for you right now, say "not now" and I'll not circle back" (a clear attempt to allow unsubscribe without using the word). How is it that they haven't figured out how to stop these mes…
> a clear attempt to allow unsubscribe without using the word I would have assumed it was primarily an attempt at getting you to verify the address is a real, monitored inbox. I guess it's probably a 2 birds with one stone kind of thing, lie about a way to unsubscribe to get off the spam filter and mark the email as a prime target for other domains.
I think there might be a small domain reputation boost to having you reply. Email providers score your domain on reply rates sometimes, as well as open rates & whether you're marked as spam.
Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#85What I fucking hate more than anything else is this new nonsense about me approaching the 15 GB limit and then when I want to clean things up, it has zero tools that make any sense. Like just let me sort all of my messages with the largest sized messages on top. Instead it gives me some random selection of messages of varying sizes, most less than 1 MB. You cannot sort it in anyway. Horrible. Horrible I am so angry.
Google, if you’re listening, the only thing I need in the cleanup tool is a sort all mails by size option. That’s it. Just put the biggest one on top and sort down from there.
Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#86LinkedIn (the company not the other users) thinks I'm stupid, so I also left it.
I love LinkedIn. Its the world biggest art project, mirroring all the trivialities of our work life and business bigotry right back into our faces in an endless feedback loop. Art, I tell you, its art. Now with AI.
The problem? Life imitates art.
Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#87What surprises me most about gmail and AI is that they seem really quite bad at filtering out obvious spam. I get so many messages from people I have never heard from, on relatively new domains, with endings like "if this isn't relevant for you right now, say "not now" and I'll not circle back" (a clear attempt to allow unsubscribe without using the word). How is it that they haven't figured out how to stop these mes…
Could be worse. I see the email from another person that has the exact same email direction that me, except that he doesn't have a "." . I see his private emails and I get double of spam... I use only Gmail as a "register and get a spam" email account. Any serious or important email goes to proton mail. PD: I contacted that person and I formed about the situation some time ago.
There is no other person. You get all email to all of the same address regardless of the number of dots.
Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#88I really hope Apple watches what Google and Microsoft are doing with AI, specifically shoving it into their customers' workflow without invitation, and steers far away from that path.
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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#89At work, we use Google Workspaces so that we have gmail and google docs and google sheets, and the "features" noted in this post have all shown up for us. That said, we were able to turn them off and haven't been bothered by them since. I don't remember the process being hard at all. That said, it's still something you need to do to have your settings not be the default settings, but is that necessarily any worse tha…
I don't think you can turn them off as a free gmail user.
Settings -> All Settings -> Smart Features -> Turn on [off] smart features in Gmail, Chat, and Meet...
If you disable that feature, all AI everything goes away (including sorting by category). There are some more targeted features you can disabled to disable writing helpers if you want.
Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left
#90Promotion culture at work, aka if I ship a feature and no one is using it, did I even drive measurable impact? Mix that with a healthy dose of fear for one's job with senior management pushing for "AI or bust" and you get these outcomes. Today it's AI non-features crowding out useful functionality, yesterday it was Google+, before it was Google Buzz, etc etc. This too shall pass (unless it truly is different this time).