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Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

#41

Does anyone actually uses these smaller models for coding? If so, how? I usually Opus everything. Is the play to plan/design/architect with a heavier model than delegate structured tasks to these smaller ones? Would appreciate to hear someone's opinion on having done and tested both paths.

plan using opus execute using local

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

#42
post #38

Does anyone actually uses these smaller models for coding? If so, how? I usually Opus everything. Is the play to plan/design/architect with a heavier model than delegate structured tasks to these smaller ones? Would appreciate to hear someone's opinion on having done and tested both paths.

I use Gemini 3 Flash, I've seen the Claude Code setups, bullish on Anthropic people are driving up tokens but I am able to produce outcomes with a fraction of the money.

Do you mind sharing your workflow? What do you mean by fraction of the money, in my case personally, I'm yet to reach a session limit on the subscription plan. I'm not "tokenmaxxing" as they say, so hard to see a scenario in which the plan is expensive for the value I get.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

#43
Huh, according to that model card this is a 137B total parameter model.

Performance doesn't seem that good:

- MAI-Code-1-Flash (137B-A5B) = 51% on SWE-bench pro

- Qwen3.6-35B-A3B = 49.5% on SWE-bench pro (https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B)

They benchmark against Claude Haiku but Haiku is not good, it's worse than tiny open models you can run locally or via API at 10% the cost.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

#44

Does anyone actually uses these smaller models for coding? If so, how? I usually Opus everything. Is the play to plan/design/architect with a heavier model than delegate structured tasks to these smaller ones? Would appreciate to hear someone's opinion on having done and tested both paths.

I was wondering the same. I guess it makes sense to use a heavy weight model to make the entire design and split the work so that smaller models (possibly local one?) would then do the coding... But how would I even do that? I'm using Claude Code. Would I need support for this within the harness ?

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

#45
post #4

The introductory blog post has a lot more information https://microsoft.ai/news/introducingmai-code-1-flash/ and the model card https://microsoft.ai/pdf/MAI-Code-1-Flash-Model-Card.PDF The broader announcement of 7 MAI models seems to be where the 5B active in the title comes from https://microsoft.ai/news/building-a-hillclimbing-machine-la...

Thanks! I've changed the top link to the blog post and put the other links in the toptext.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

#46
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Gemini 3 Flash, I've seen the Claude Code setups, bullish on Anthropic people are driving up tokens but I am able to produce outcomes with a fraction of the money.

Do you mind sharing your workflow? What do you mean by fraction of the money, in my case personally, I'm yet to reach a session limit on the subscription plan. I'm not "tokenmaxxing" as they say, so hard to see a scenario in which the plan is expensive for the value I get.

If you don't hit a limit running Opus, it means you are very much in the loop.

For example you probably don't have days where you ask Opus to review your whole code base and look for code duplication/technical debt/robustness issues, and then to fix some of the found issues, and do this 3-5 times until no big issues are found anymore.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

#47
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s about bang for buck. That high a score for 5B params is pretty good, nigh unbelievable a short while ago. It is my belief that smaller models will get better and better, and even cloud SOTA models will shrink. Yet another reason the current buildout will feel like the railroads.

Yeah the future is probably a number of highly specialised small models you can run on your own hardware rather than massive frontier models in the cloud. That's what I'm betting on anyway.

That seems to be what Microsoft is betting on also based on what was shown at the BUILD keynote today + that new surface ultra and the surface mini PC with the new Nvidia chip. Nadella really played up local AI as the main use case they have in mind.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

#48
Please test your websites in Safari. Almost all of your iOS users use it by default, and the desktop experience is pretty close to the mobile experience, so testing is easy.

That scroll effect is jank city for me (yeah yeah works fine in Chrome/Edge).

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

#49
I'd really like to get back to an autocomplete flow, ideally with some shared and optimized context with the relationship with my larger agent models.

But it seems like, by and large, even the faster models are now aimed at longer-running agentic flows and not sub-1s autocomplete. Or am I wrong about that?

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

#50

It is good to se big companies like Microsoft launching LLMs. They have large amount of compute power and good scientists to create useful models.

Microsoft has been releasing LLMs for years.

They were mostly distilled or fine-tuned OAI models.
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