He will retreat on his Hawaiian island and obviously nobody will watch him there.
Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uuuugh. The AI smell is strong on this comment. Please use AI for loads of things, but also pretty-please keep it out of inter-human discussions.
This does not read as AI to me at all
I'm 99% certain it's AI. Lots of short sentences. Very short paragraphs. It's not X, it's Y.
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#123What really gets to me is how big tech isn't even pretending anymore to serve society. They clearly feel superior to the rest of us and entitled to rule.
I think some of that is just Larry Ellison
Some, but definitely not just him.
Bezos' recent CNBC interview was enough of a kick in the nuts to finally get me to migrate off of AWS last weekend.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's so frustrating because even the notionally good actors look at this and think "yeah but it's not gonna corrupt me " No you fuck, the only way to walk the good path is to give up power and never let it concentrate again. Larry Ellison of course is one of the most anti human people on the planet and I doubt he was ever anything else.
The real question is whether the threshold before it causes irreversible corruption is before or after the point where you can make real change. The latter is obviously quite terrifying as it essentially means that democracy will always be corrupt (unless time is a factor perhaps)
I think resiliency to the corruption isn't evenly distributed among the populace, there are definitely those people who are capable of resisting it long enough to get shit done. I just think it's mostly the levels of abstraction that these people have between them and anything real.
Honestly, if you suggest surveillance state shit, you should just be mandated to livestream your life 24/7, you have nothing to hide right?
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is kinda what is going on in China.
Except China has a well defined culture and millenia of experience with this and has learned how to have an autocratic society that still somewhat serves its people (until it doesn't). The US has been captured by a foreign power that has no interest in the welfare of the people so the expectation is that an autocratic society would be much worse in the US.
They don’t have millennia of experience with a surveillance state. But so far people are accepting it because their economic situation is generally improving. And crime is low. It may change once they have reached the same level of prosperity as the West and growth slows.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is kinda what is going on in China.
And that's what the Larry Ellisons of the world want. One of the bigger lies ever told is that free-market economies help democratize nations. They don't. If they did, we would have made massive investments in Eastern Europe after the fall of the Marxist-Leninist governments there. Instead we decided to invest in China and, later, Vietnam, among others. These are two very non-democratic nations. Why did we do that, e…
“ far too much money and far too little empathy”
There is the old video about the mistake of anthropomorphizing Ellison. You don’t get angry at a lawn mower either when you stick your hand into it.
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#128If anyone managed to stick around through the later, lesser seasons of HBO’s Westworld , they were rewarded with a shockingly plausible view of the world Ellison is describing. And at a time when most of the computing technology required still seemed like sci-fi. I remember kind of chuckling at the idea that the machine intelligence had made and saved a recording of a random conversation Aaron Paul’s character had wi…
You mean, you have not created a meet with the relative who could only join remotely and did not transcribe it for the relatives who could not attend? I am shocked /j
It’s not so much that the recording was made. CCTV has been pervasive in the UK for decades.
It’s that the scalable design & implementation of LLMs & agentic systems has made it plausible to automatically annotate, index, and ultimately extract “value” from keeping that recording around indefinitely.
That’s the necessary cornerstone to make it worth collecting in the first place.
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#129Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"
#130Be careful what you wish for Larry. If I may point to the examples of Fritz Thyssen, Hugo Junkers, Alfried Krupp...
There are many examples of succesful clever mega-wealthy industrialists who really thought they were above the fray, had it all figured out, and could push all the levers to their advantage.