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OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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If you are wondering why anyone would spend more money to use these APIs through AWS instead of going direct: In some companies it’s nearly impossible to get new vendors approved. If the company has an AWS contract then you have to use what AWS offers.

Every CEO, board, and middle manager in the world is AI buzzword-obsessed now. Surely asking to sign a contract with the frontier labs directly would not get held up?

We're talking global mega corps here. They are allergic to any real change. If they have an existing AWS contract and can easily spin up these bedrock instances they are going to do that 100% of the time. Vendor procurement is a nightmare in those companies (trust me), and for something as potentially sensitive and hot it will always be easier to stay in the AWS ecosystem. It's easy to underestimate how hard it can be to change something at these enormous companies.

Re: OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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We have some enterprise customers who require all data be processed in the UK or AU. We've been limited to using Azure OpenAI, which only has older models in those regions (eg 4o, 4.1-mini). I was hoping we'd see the newer models in those regions once they got to AWS, but it looks like the newer models are only available in the US at the moment :(

Re: OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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We have a vendor with almost no subprocessors because they run their own hardware in a colo. It is refreshing actually. They can accurately answer questions on how everything works and there is no subsubsubprocessors to worry about.

I think he's arguing about OpenAI vendoring specifically, where OpenAI has a lot of subprocessors, but AWS doesn't and there's not really a 3rd camp to choose from, yet. But even there you can't just choose AWS as I tried to illustrate in uncle comment.

Ah my mistake, I thought he was making a broader point that other providers always have deep subprocessor stacks.

Re: OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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But their contract with Microslop prevents this?!?!? They specifically said like a month ago that they wouldn’t sell API access on AWS, they would only release specific products.

MS gave away its exclusive rights to negotiate no revenue sharing: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2026/04/27/the-next-phase-o...

Re: OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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How is one certain bedrock data isn’t being shuttled to external providers?

They could be lying with all this: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/bedrock/latest/userguide/data-pr... But it seems tremendously unlikely with how explicit they are being with it. It is clearly one of the top selling features for the service.

The only response with an actual link to the docs, thanks homie!

Edit: From your source - “You are responsible for maintaining control over your content that is hosted on this infrastructure.”

So they don’t.

Re: OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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3. from my opportunity - For many (not all) LLMs, Bedrock gives you control over which country the data stays in. You have no control over that with the Claude API, for example. We do not work in the US and have strong requirements for the data to stay in our country, which Bedrock gives us control over.

> We do not work in the US and have strong requirements for the data to stay in our country, which Bedrock gives us control over. It doesn't actually. The US can request data from whatever country US companies store it, and companies must comply. So if you have strong requirements for data to stay in your country, using a US provider, whatever it is, is out of question no matter what the company's marketing claims (t…

Ah yes, there is a gap between what our regulator wants and what the reality is. I have no qualms that they'll hover out the data if they want to, we know that since Snowden. But I have to comply with the regulator, not with reality.
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