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Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

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Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

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Post by csomar »

isoprophlex wrote: post #132
goolz wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep! They are rampant on Upwork. You could probably find a cell of them in a day if you wanted, just go looking for jobs with the 'crypto' tag, haha. They have offered me serious sums of money to "simply install RDP and give us access to your network". I imagine people desperate enough take them up on it too.

That... sounds lucrative, and exciting? Use an isolated network, snoop on what device is doing, learn a thing or two about what these threat actors are doing?

I think you need to give them your identity/bank account to route the payments. Otherwise, 50% is too high for a laptop placement + vpn.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

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Post by reaperducer »

llm_nerd wrote: post #57
ed153 wrote: post #16

As a general rule, if someone ever posts any kind of career troubles on any platform, the only correct responses should contain sympathy or a relevant career opportunity. Anything else is so callous. Hang in there Ilia, you're not the only one hurting, and don't apologize for venting. Most of us in the HN community are far more supportive.

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Wait, is everyone who posts on who wants to be hired a sad down-and-out unemployed waif at the end of their rope?

Stereotypical HN response. Jump in with a contrarian response because everything is black or white. Everything is 1 or 0. There is no subtlety; no shades of gray.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

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Post by csomar »

palebluedot wrote: post #166
isoprophlex wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That... sounds lucrative, and exciting? Use an isolated network, snoop on what device is doing, learn a thing or two about what these threat actors are doing?

I would worry you run a real risk of becoming unbanked once those funds hit your bank account, or worse

You'll need to convince the court that you were not aware they were the North Koreans. You run a very real risk of jail, not just becoming unbanked.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

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Post by csomar »

Hey Ilia! I don't think these emails are going to go anywhere. People who have decided to take on these jobs are not going to be dissuaded by your post. That being said, there is worse. There are predators out there who will hunt people in desperate positions (ie: ask for money to place you in a company, offer a fake job, etc..), so it can always get worse.

I'd focus on getting any job/reducing expenses and figuring out the debt angle (interest keeps running). Good luck.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

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Post by JsonDemWitOster »

IliaLitviak wrote: post #185
JsonDemWitOster wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on Ilia's post on the "Who's wants to be hired?" thread, he's currently based in Portugal.

I am, yes. As I said, I am aware of my privilege and even though I might technically theoretically be a valid asylum case It would feel like abusing a system designed to help people in actual dire need. So even though I am more than willing to relocate, I would definitely NOT do that through the asylum process.

Ilia, first of all, from what you've written today, you come across to me like a decent principled person and that's rare nowadays. I admire that.

That said, if I may offer you my $0.02: systems exist for us to fallback on. You might know yourself and your situation best but sometimes the best way to not drown is to take a lifeline even if you know how to swim. I completely understand not wanting to take-up the space of someone in greater need but let the bureaucrats make that call.

I'm not very smooth with words but what I'm saying is, I encourage you to apply for social support systems nonetheless. That's not just specifically the asylum process but I'm sure there are other programs in the EU (for instance) where you might qualify. It wouldn't hurt your situation, let the bureaucrats make the call, I don't think anyone will take it against you.

Best of luck.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

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Post by tuananh »

cryptopian wrote: post #55

Regrettably, Linkedin doesn't let you begin your display name with an emoji any more. I always enjoyed/despaired at the many cold call recruitment messages coming in from obvious bots reading "Hi :beer:!"

one of the nit trick that i love :(

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

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Post by Tade0 »

lovehashbrowns wrote: post #90
Tade0 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they're actual companies. One of the more recent emails I received contains this bit: "If you're already employed, I can also support you in taking on additional contract work. I'll guide you through the entire interview process to help you succeed and get hired. In this partnership, your main role would be attending client meetings, while I handle all development and written communication. We would the…

Ain’t that one of those North Korea “scam” things where they need an intermediary due to sanctions lol I could be very wrong though

Quite possible, as it wouldn't even the first instance in my case. Previous were more upfront about it though.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

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Post by Grosvenor »

Tade0 wrote: post #47

I'm still getting this sort of spam to an address I posted here 5+ years ago. Recently it intensified, which leads me to believe it's automated. I guess we can officially add a third entry and, keeping the alphabetical order, make it: "death, spam and taxes"

Lovely spam, wonderful spa-a-m, Lovely spam, wonderful S Spam, Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am, Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am, SPA-A-A-A-A-A-A-AM, SPA-A-A-A-A-A-A-AM, LOVELY SPAM, LOVELY SPAM, LOVELY SPAM, LOVELY SPAM, LOVELY SPA-A-A-A-AM... SPA-AM, SPA-AM, SPA-AM, SPA-A-A-AM!

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

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Post by GuB-42 »

lousclues wrote: post #110
dheera wrote: post #42

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Reminds me of all the recruiters who reach out to me saying they're working on filling some engineer position but never say the company name, and when asked, they want to have a call. Stop wasting my time, STATE THE COMPANY UPFRONT AND AT THE TOP, preferably in the subject line

It seems like all paths with recruiters lead to the phone call. I really wish some of them had an email only option.

If you want a conversation between humans, a phone call may be a good option. With email only, there is a good chance it will turn into a talk between bots. Bots can make phone calls too, but it is more complicated and a bit too obvious.
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