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Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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Post by embedding-shape »

karmicthreat wrote: post #18

Adafruit probably did a review of AI PCB tools. I've used Flux.ai before; it was a pretty bad experience. After about 50-100$ in tokens a couple of times, I couldn't get more than a couple of simple components on the schematic. And not in sensible positions. The product just grinds tokens for little return, in my opinion. I had far better luck wiring together KiCad MCP, SKIDL. There are some AI-driven autorouters out…

> After about 50-100$ in tokens a couple of times, I couldn't get more than a couple of simple components on the schematic.

Is this common? When I try out new AI tools, even as person who is financially independent, I load up maybe 10-20 USD worth of tokens, and if I don't get anything working from that, I literally give up and don't continue trying. If it can't do anything useful like "place a simple component on the schematic" after ~10 USD of expenditure, is it really worth continue adding more money into the platform? Seems DOA in those cases.

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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Post by StephenSmith »

karmicthreat wrote: post #18

Adafruit probably did a review of AI PCB tools. I've used Flux.ai before; it was a pretty bad experience. After about 50-100$ in tokens a couple of times, I couldn't get more than a couple of simple components on the schematic. And not in sensible positions. The product just grinds tokens for little return, in my opinion. I had far better luck wiring together KiCad MCP, SKIDL. There are some AI-driven autorouters out…

I tried this last week and had the same experience. It was terrible and they got $140 out of me before I realized what it was (not) capable of. Their support was nonexistent as well.

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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Post by villgax »

antirez wrote: post #7

Note that this is not related to Black Forest Labs Flux, the image synthesis models builders, and is instead related to a PCB AI authoring product called Flux.ai.

> Time to shine

Nor is this Flux the display warmth app

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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Post by raphman »

Never heard of Flux.ai before. It seems to be a 3D circuit designer with 'AI'.

Not sure what the issue between them and Adafruit is. However, people over on Reddit¹ claim that Flux.ai is a little bit scummy. They push users into a beginner trial ($5/month) and then silently charge for usage per token - up to $100 per month.

Oh, they also claim that they have "the world's largest community-driven public library of Adafruit products, including footprints, symbols, datasheets, and simulation models"². I wonder whether they designed these themselves or whether they use existing ones. Could not easily find licenses info.

¹) https://www.reddit.com/r/PCB/comments/18o5zfo/thoughts_on_fl...

²) https://www.flux.ai/sitemap/manufacturers/adafruit

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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Post by karmicthreat »

embedding-shape wrote: post #21
karmicthreat wrote: post #18

Adafruit probably did a review of AI PCB tools. I've used Flux.ai before; it was a pretty bad experience. After about 50-100$ in tokens a couple of times, I couldn't get more than a couple of simple components on the schematic. And not in sensible positions. The product just grinds tokens for little return, in my opinion. I had far better luck wiring together KiCad MCP, SKIDL. There are some AI-driven autorouters out…

> After about 50-100$ in tokens a couple of times, I couldn't get more than a couple of simple components on the schematic. Is this common? When I try out new AI tools, even as person who is financially independent, I load up maybe 10-20 USD worth of tokens, and if I don't get anything working from that, I literally give up and don't continue trying. If it can't do anything useful like "place a simple component on th…

I used company money on it. I was hoping I could massage it along enough to get a workable test fixture out of it. I wanted to put together a simple hardware-in-the-loop tester for a component of our product.
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