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OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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Re: OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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Post by btown »

kylemaxwell wrote: post #38

Every time somebody questions why you might "trust" AWS (or Azure or GCP or whatever), or why you'd pay this premium, I realize they are not accustomed to working in enterprise environments. In my case, I work at a large enterprise with strict data governance built into customer contracts, and (partly related, partly not) our own governance concerns. Using vendors where you not only have infosec permission, but they…

On top of this, there's a vast difference between "what do you mean that team spent $1000 on AI in their expense report, what did we get for that?" vs. "oh, the company-wide AWS bill went up by a few percent, let's look into that when we have time." The latter makes projects far more viable.

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Post by raincole »

kylemaxwell wrote: post #38

Every time somebody questions why you might "trust" AWS (or Azure or GCP or whatever), or why you'd pay this premium, I realize they are not accustomed to working in enterprise environments. In my case, I work at a large enterprise with strict data governance built into customer contracts, and (partly related, partly not) our own governance concerns. Using vendors where you not only have infosec permission, but they…

Or to put it simply, nobody ever got fired for buying IBM.

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Post by bunderbunder »

foolfoolz wrote: post #60
kylemaxwell wrote: post #38

Every time somebody questions why you might "trust" AWS (or Azure or GCP or whatever), or why you'd pay this premium, I realize they are not accustomed to working in enterprise environments. In my case, I work at a large enterprise with strict data governance built into customer contracts, and (partly related, partly not) our own governance concerns. Using vendors where you not only have infosec permission, but they…

while true, everyone signed this same data privacy agreement with anthropic / openai a long tiem ago

It’s not just that. Oftentimes contracts stipulate that the client’s data can’t be transferred across certain boundaries. If you have signed such an agreement, even sending the data to a service on the same cloud provider but in a different region could be a huge compliance violation.

Re: OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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Post by crubier »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #43
Aurornis wrote: post #8

If you are wondering why anyone would spend more money to use these APIs through AWS instead of going direct: In some companies it’s nearly impossible to get new vendors approved. If the company has an AWS contract then you have to use what AWS offers.

Every CEO, board, and middle manager in the world is AI buzzword-obsessed now. Surely asking to sign a contract with the frontier labs directly would not get held up?

The hard part is not the CEO, it's the CISO

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Post by jimbokun »

raincole wrote: post #62
kylemaxwell wrote: post #38

Every time somebody questions why you might "trust" AWS (or Azure or GCP or whatever), or why you'd pay this premium, I realize they are not accustomed to working in enterprise environments. In my case, I work at a large enterprise with strict data governance built into customer contracts, and (partly related, partly not) our own governance concerns. Using vendors where you not only have infosec permission, but they…

Or to put it simply, nobody ever got fired for buying IBM.

-> Microsoft -> AWS.

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Post by jimbokun »

jofzar wrote: post #17
rho138 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is one certain bedrock data isn’t being shuttled to external providers?

What other people are saying, but also because Amazon does not want to fuck around in this space. They don't want the legal fight or the reputational damage that would come with it.

They have very little to gain and a hell of a lot to lose.

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Post by shay_ker »

It's fascinating that cloud providers like AWS/GCP/Azure are now immovable "enterprise" technologies, in the way that IBM, Oracle, SAP, etc. were 15 years ago (and still are!).

Fond memories when only startups used S3 and EC2....

It's both an incredible triumph and tremendously sad that cloud providers are now the dinosaurs. So many companies are locked in, just as they were before. It's only going to get worse.

I wish the "cloud" was more fungible.

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