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OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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Re: OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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Post by trollbridge »

xingped wrote: post #30
trollbridge wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also don't really stand to benefit from doing so, unlike basically everyone else in this space. They have access to a ridiculous amount of private customer data and so far have not shown any predilection to misusing that access.

To take an easy example that has actually had lawsuits I can link to, you must be unfamiliar with the lawsuits against Amazon for misusing sellers' data in order to undercut them with their own products... https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/13-bln-uk-lawsuit-acc... There's zero reason to "trust" Amazon about anything. (And yes, I know the retail and AWS sides of the company are different, but it's still the same…

The retail side is completely different from AWS.

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Post by rohansood15 »

Anthropic better get that IPO out soon. Their incredible revenue run-up was basically a result of botched Gemini releases and OpenAI having their hands-tied behind their Azure backs.

Anthropic models were quite literally the only viable serverless API (i.e. Bedrock) models on AWS. They didn't even bother releasing the recent Qwen 3.5/3.6 series. Combined with the token efficiency/ROI focus, I would really like to see how Antrhopic ends Q3.

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Post by avianlyric »

bitmasher9 wrote: post #49
kopirgan wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A very interesting comment. Curious to understand how AI will continue to grow if this is the trend. Assuming most valuable data is behind such firewalls. And whatever is public has been harvested, trained on top of whatever has been acquired illegally (this is a grey area). Will it become a closed ecosystem without outside input?!

The pace of data creation is only increasing, and our capabilities of sharing and storing it is growing as well. Lots of this is out in the open, ready for anyone to crawl and scrape. There probably is a point of “peak data” where the amount of new data will start decreasing, but that’s likely a 22nd or 24rd century problem.

Pace of data creation ignores the fact that the majority of the big gains in LLM “intelligence” has come from scraping and feeding in the huge amount of public data that already exists.

Unless we’re producing data on the order of an entire new internet every couple of years, then it’s hard to see how LLMs can achieve further huge leaps in capability compared to training on effectively 0% of the internet vs 100% of the internet.

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Post by foolfoolz »

kylemaxwell wrote: post #38

Every time somebody questions why you might "trust" AWS (or Azure or GCP or whatever), or why you'd pay this premium, I realize they are not accustomed to working in enterprise environments. In my case, I work at a large enterprise with strict data governance built into customer contracts, and (partly related, partly not) our own governance concerns. Using vendors where you not only have infosec permission, but they…

while true, everyone signed this same data privacy agreement with anthropic / openai a long tiem ago
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